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re: GOT.. Stay out non-book readers... Massive spoilers.....
Posted on 4/21/15 at 10:54 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
Posted on 4/21/15 at 10:54 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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So, unless Benjen miraculously reappears and denies or confirms Jon Snow's parents, we will never know.
Coldhands FTMFW!!!!
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Posted on 4/21/15 at 10:58 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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Benjen and Aemon could have known, I'll grant you that but Aemon is dead and Benjen is likely dead. So, unless Benjen miraculously reappears and denies or confirms Jon Snow's parents, we will never know.
But someone is bound to not only know, but have proof of it if R+L=J is real since it would have to come to light at some point in the plot, right?
Posted on 4/22/15 at 2:13 am to glassman
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Aemon turned down the thrown for the good of the realm
Why do you think his reason for turning down the thrown was "for the good of the realm"? Its been a while since I've read the books but I thought the reason Aemon turned down the throne was because of the vow he'd taken (and from his account it took a lot of self restraint from answering the many pleas to make his claim)
In fact with hindsight it would probably have been for the good of the realm if Aegon had taken his right to the Iron Throne. Obviously we can't know that Aegon would be the same man that he was if he remained a member of the Night's Watch, but you've got to think hes better than the alternative.
And there is a town dedicated to members of the Night's Watch breaking their vows. So what if instead of sleeping around one breaks their vow by making a claim to the Iron Throne?
This post was edited on 4/22/15 at 2:14 am
Posted on 4/22/15 at 7:52 am to glassman
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Benjen meets Jon before the feast at Winterfell, book and show in line at that point. Jon says, "I am ready". Benjen says, "You don't know what you will be giving up".
He was just talking about pussy. Turns out he was wrong though, Jon got some.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 8:36 am to glassman
quote:So Ned told his brother the truth but kept it from his wife, allowing her to hold on to that resentment, treat Jon like dirt and have a spike driven through her heart every time she hears someone talk about Ned's tainted honor? No. I think Reed is the only other person who knows for sure.
Besides, Benjen, Aemon is the one person to be trusted. He knew before Jon ever went to the Wall.
quote:It wasn't for the good of the realm. He turned it down because he was already a maester and knew that he would be breaking his vows, regardless of their willingness to bend the rules for him.
Aemon turned down the thrown for the good of the realm.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 9:27 am to blueboy
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So Ned told his brother the truth but kept it from his wife, allowing her to hold on to that resentment, treat Jon like dirt and have a spike driven through her heart every time she hears someone talk about Ned's tainted honor? No.
Agreed. It just doesn't fit within the current story narrative for Ned to have told Benjen, and by association, Aemon.
Just think about the Tower of Joy and how that would have had to of been played out:
Lyanna: Promise me, Ned. Promise me you will never, ever tell another living soul.
Ned: I promise. I will never speak of this to anyone.
Lyanna: Except Benjen. You can tell him. Teenagers are trustworthy.
Ned: Umm...ok. I'll just tell Ben. I swear that only he will know.
Lyanna: Well, Ben can tell one person. But only someone who will take the secret to his grave. Promise me, Ned.
Ned: Bitches be cray
Posted on 4/22/15 at 9:50 am to jrodLSUke
Lyanna: But you can't tell your wife. I want her to hold deep-seeded resentments toward you, pray for my son's death and treat him like dirt his entire life. Ben can know, though, because I want my son to spend the rest of his days in a sexless, frozen wasteland surrounded by criminals and disgraced noblemen. Promise me, Ned. Promise.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 10:20 am to jrodLSUke
The only way I think Benjen knows is from being fairly close to Lyanna and putting two and two together when she runs away with Rhaegar (or if she was pregnant when she ran and Benjen found out that way).
I truly believe Ned never told a soul.
I truly believe Ned never told a soul.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 10:26 am to blueboy
#teamNedcankeepasecret
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