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re: Gone Girl question SPOILERS

Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:58 am to
Posted by CrippleCreek
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:58 am to
IIRC, in the book Tanner does not buy in to Nick's version of events nearly as quickly, and the trap laid by Amy is even more well laid.

They need the existence of the stuff amongst the clue to help convince people of his version of events. But even in the book Tanner says that they need to turn it over, and they were planning to. They just waited too long for the perfect moment. Just like they waited too long to get ahead of the Andie story.
Posted by Cruiserhog
Little Rock
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 10:04 am to
she made it looked like he was holding her hostage.

she put DNA on the bottle and probaly injured her poonanne' with it as well.
ligature marks on her hands and feet with the robe tie
she faked the scene for the cameras with rustling his clothes and biting his lip and then screaming in the corner

plus her story was national news and she could ride that sympathy forever...no one would believe someone was THAT crazy.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46392 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 10:06 am to
How about the fact that the FBI is just content to accept Amy's testimony while 1.) she is still covered in blood (wtf? clean that shite off of her for god's sake!), 2.) she has been given painkillers, and 3.) her story obviously has a lot of holes that the lead detective keeps pointing out.

But nope, the FBI just takes this single 5 minute summary of events from a drugged up "victim" at face value and shuts the local detective down.

Which brings up another question: how did the FBI get jurisdiction in this case? It's a pretty typical missing person case until she shows back up claiming to have been kidnapped. So how does the FBI gaint he jurisdiction and the authority to shut down any further investigation (and, again, why the frick would they do that)?
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 10:10 am to
quote:

What would make him look more guilty?

I didn't suggest he throw a bonfire and invite people over?! You back your car up at 1am, load incriminating shite into car, and dispose of incriminating shite 14 counties over.

If I know my wife purposely planted that crap in my sisters garage, and she's framing me, its not a big leap to think she's going to leak that to the cops. If they serve a warrant and the shed is empty, I'm pretty sure I'm in a better position.

Leaving that shite in the shed was the biggest flaw in the story as far as I'm concerned. Most people know to get rid of that, because its only a matter of time.



He'd be caught. The houses were surrounded by camera crews 24/7.

He couldn't even sneak into her house at night to watch TV. No way he could back up a truck and take 30 minutes AT LEAST loading shite up then drive away unnoticed.

There are more flaws in your idea than in the movie.



And as far as the cabin goes with NPH, she gave herself ligature marks and rape trauma with a wine bottle, waited for him to cum inside her so she had his semen, then killed him. Also, she fricked his clothes and hair up so when he left the outside camera would show him looking as if he'd been in a struggle of some sort.

She also played the camera that morning with the screaming and rope around her feet and fake bloody vagina.

The cameras were only on the outside and exits. They have no video of what happened inside the house. The only issue I have with this theory, is that means they have footage of him and her arriving from the casino WEEKS after she went missing and in disguise and her not being forced into the house. Was it insinuated he didn't turn on the cameras until after they arrived?

This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 10:12 am
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 10:14 am to
I assume the cameras have a harddrive that only keeps footage for so long
Posted by UncleBlazer
Member since Jan 2013
3333 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 10:14 am to
quote:

The cameras were only on the outside and exits. They have no video of what happened inside the house. The only issue I have with this theory, is that means they have footage of him and her arriving from the casino WEEKS after she went missing and in disguise and her not being forced into the house. Was it insinuated he didn't turn on the cameras until after they arrived?


That was my point. NPH parents know these are here and would have them checked out. I know her story and how she went about it, but there are too many holes that like the poster above stated even the local detective could recognize.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 10:15 am to
quote:

It's a pretty typical missing person case until she shows back up claiming to have been kidnapped. So how does the FBI gaint he jurisdiction and the authority to shut down any further investigation (and, again, why the frick would they do that)?


Well they weren't involved until she showed back up right? That's when it became kidnapping spanning across multiple states.

And they probably didn't shut it down, they just showed her giving her first account of events. I'm sure other investigation was done off camera.


quote:

she is still covered in blood (wtf? clean that shite off of her for god's sake!


This.

My wife is a nurse and was screaming that the whole time. They would NEVER leave that blood all over her. It would be cleaned off the second she was physically capable of being cleaned and after forensics had samples.


Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 10:16 am to
quote:

That was my point. NPH parents know these are here and would have them checked out. I know her story and how she went about it, but there are too many holes that like the poster above stated even the local detective could recognize.



But, if they just said in the movie that the cameras weren't on until after they arrived, it would fix this loophole IMO.
Posted by UncleBlazer
Member since Jan 2013
3333 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 10:27 am to
They left the blood on her for the shower scene.

It represents how weak she is seen in the eyes of the public. When she confesses to BA that she murdered NPH, the blood is rinsed off her to show how powerful she is inside her home.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 10:40 am to
quote:

They left the blood on her for the shower scene.

It represents how weak she is seen in the eyes of the public. When she confesses to BA that she murdered NPH, the blood is rinsed off her to show how powerful she is inside her home.



Well that weak symbolism is completely overshadowed by the fact no hospital in the country would let her walk out of there covered from head to toe in someone else's blood.

Posted by UncleBlazer
Member since Jan 2013
3333 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 10:43 am to
quote:

Well that weak symbolism is completely overshadowed by the fact no hospital in the country would let her walk out of there covered from head to toe in someone else's blood.





I agree
Posted by LACountyTiger
Los Angeles County
Member since Nov 2013
1338 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 10:53 am to
quote:

The one thing I can't get past:

You know your wife is not only still alive, but batshit crazy and framing you....you know this.

Now, why in the frick! would you open that shed, see all those toys, tv's, etc....and just leave it there????

Get that shite out of there under the cover of night and burn it! It's easily the biggest flaw in the story to me. Who the frick just closes the barndoor, and leaves it??


And how the hell did his sister or anyone in her neighborhood not notice someone filling the shed with all that crap. I don't recall her having a fenced in yard. Surely someone would have seen something
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
8807 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 11:05 am to
quote:

Get that shite out of there under the cover of night and burn it! It's easily the biggest flaw in the story to me. Who the frick just closes the barndoor, and leaves it??


Do you really think Ben's character could do anything that big without all of the media in the area catching him?
Posted by CrippleCreek
Member since Apr 2012
2345 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 11:06 am to
quote:

And how the hell did his sister or anyone in her neighborhood not notice someone filling the shed with all that crap. I don't recall her having a fenced in yard. Surely someone would have seen something



The town has a huge out of work and homeless population and half the buildings are empty based on the opening scene and some stuff throughout the movie.

It also has a huge drug problem. People sneaking around in the middle of the night is pretty much ignored in those communities.
Posted by Uncle Stu
#AlbinoLivesMatter
Member since Aug 2004
33658 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

Do you really think Ben's character could do anything that big without all of the media in the area catching him?

at that point in the story, where was the media?

he realizes the clue refers to the woodshed

he walks outside..no cameras, no flashes....nothing

he opens the double doors wide and just stares at it....nobody was out front with camera in hand- right then, right there, get that shite out of there

a few days later, yes, it would have been impossible
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77911 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 1:34 pm to
quote:


Now, why in the frick! would you open that shed, see all those toys, tv's, etc....and just leave it there????

Get that shite out of there under the cover of night and burn it!




that worked out so well for that prison worker in NY didn't it?

quote:

Palmer also accepted paintings from Matt and Sweat, according to a document detailing the charges against him. After the convicts escaped, he tried to destroy evidence of the paintings, burning some of them in a fire pit at his home and burying others in nearby woods, the document said.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77911 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 1:35 pm to
on an unrelated topic, DAMN! Mike finally got busted after all those years working for Gus.

Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
23978 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

The only issue I have with this theory, is that means they have footage of him and her arriving from the casino WEEKS after she went missing and in disguise and her not being forced into the house.


She could easily say that he moved her from one location to his lake house if that was brought up.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
23978 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

That's when it became kidnapping spanning across multiple states.


I don't think she ever crossed state lines, and it is said that NPH's character lives near St. Louis.
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 6/25/15 at 1:43 pm to
My reply is lost at the bottom of the previous page, but camera systems only store so many days typically


Those previous camera shots may have been overwritten by then


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