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re: George Lucas disappointed with the lack of creativity in The Force Awakens
Posted on 1/29/16 at 3:24 pm to OMLandshark
Posted on 1/29/16 at 3:24 pm to OMLandshark
quote:how? There was actual plot development in AotC
Not to mention Lucas rips off Empire for all its worth when he made "Attack of the Clones".
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 3:46 pm to jeff5891
I don't get how AOTC rips ESB
Posted on 1/29/16 at 4:20 pm to Rhames
Posted on 1/29/16 at 5:29 pm to OMLandshark
quote:
There was more creativity with the Force in the scene where Kylo is trying to get inside Rey's mind than there
You are just awful. Those scenes were lame as hell. You just can't pull JJ's dick out your mouth to admit it.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 5:34 pm to Bench McElroy
He's not wrong in a sense, they did recycle an awful lot, but while George would have done that aspect better, he also would have broken about 100 things JJ did well.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 7:12 pm to Bench McElroy
George is a "Big Picture" guy, I think. The PT could have been amazing if he had stepped back and let someone else handle the directing and more detailed stuff.
After years of hearing people bitch about his movies, he finally gets to bitch too. That's his right, and may be a big reason he sold out to begin with.
As far as Episode 7 goes, its a great movie, better than the prequels. Just as re-use of the Death Star is a knock on ROTJ, so will there be knocks against TFA. (The size comparison scene is laughably bad - "Its another Death Star!". "No look, this is even bigger!")
After years of hearing people bitch about his movies, he finally gets to bitch too. That's his right, and may be a big reason he sold out to begin with.
As far as Episode 7 goes, its a great movie, better than the prequels. Just as re-use of the Death Star is a knock on ROTJ, so will there be knocks against TFA. (The size comparison scene is laughably bad - "Its another Death Star!". "No look, this is even bigger!")
Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:02 pm to UncleBlazer
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It's funny to see this and then see some claim TFA didn't rip off ANH. At least AOTC changes up how some of the key events take place. TFA just used the same devices
TFA goal was to reassure the fans that this was the Star Wars they grew up with and used a familiar plot to do it. Attack of the Clones doesn't have a similar plot to Empire (save for the love angle), but it rips off every bit of imagery from it that it possibly could. Asteroid field fights, using Boba Fett, the Cloud/Water City, Luke and Anakin losing their hands, and a ship planting itself on a wall to avoid detection.
The problem is not that he ripped it off, but that it's all jarring and doesn't really work within the context of the film. Lucas clearly doesn't understand why Empire worked. JJ clearly does understand why the Original Star Wars worked. The characters were good enough to hold the film on their own terms, and it needed to be done in a familiar setting. It was great, while Attack of the Clones failed in every way possible.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:05 pm to fr33manator
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You are just awful. Those scenes were lame as hell. You just can't pull JJ's dick out your mouth to admit it.
Aside from Midiclorians (which was just awful) name a single creative thing Lucas did with the Force in the prequels. All they do is swing their blades faster, jump around, and use lightning more. I don't care if you liked the scene or not, TFA wins by default on this for at least trying something different with the Force.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:37 pm to OMLandshark
All they did was add some ill thought out blades to a lightsaber. And did some Pallete and gender swaps.
I guess you think catching a blaster bolt was "cool".
The movie lacked originality. It lacked magic.
I guess you think catching a blaster bolt was "cool".
The movie lacked originality. It lacked magic.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:42 pm to fr33manator
quote:
All they did was add some ill thought out blades to a lightsaber. And did some Pallete and gender swaps.
I guess you think catching a blaster bolt was "cool".
Well, we never saw the freeze framed blasts in any of them. And you don't see the interrogation techniques with the Force either. As I said, it's more creative than anything in the prequels.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:58 pm to OMLandshark
At least TFA looks like an old Star Wars movie - where specific things happen with a small cast of characters.
I could never get over the fact that the prequels were supposed to have happened before A New Hope - and there was just so much stuff going on and the Universe looked 10X more advanced that A New Hope and crazy and CGI overload.
It just didn't jive in meshing with the original series. Lucas in retrospect, if he loved creating "new" things and worlds...should have just moved forward...and said it was 1000 years later or something. The look of a film matters in a timeline - and especially the scope of the story and dialogue.
I could never get over the fact that the prequels were supposed to have happened before A New Hope - and there was just so much stuff going on and the Universe looked 10X more advanced that A New Hope and crazy and CGI overload.
It just didn't jive in meshing with the original series. Lucas in retrospect, if he loved creating "new" things and worlds...should have just moved forward...and said it was 1000 years later or something. The look of a film matters in a timeline - and especially the scope of the story and dialogue.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:09 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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He didn't have to sell to Disney.
But he did. So he should shut the frick up.
He's the one talking and bringing the criticism on himself.
They guy had some cool ideas for a universe, but Kasdan brought that to the next level in Empire. One of the greatest films ever made. I can't believe some people in here are defending fricking attack of the clones.
Lucas is lucky to have partnered with Kasdan. Who also wrote the screenplay for Raiders by the way.
Lucas might be the mind behind Star Wars, but Kasdan is the heart and soul that keeps it alive. It's a shame more people don't know his name.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:11 pm to fr33manator
quote:
All they did was add some ill thought out blades to a lightsaber.
The way he used those blades in close combat to stab through his arm was awesome.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:53 pm to OMLandshark
Force didn't really seem that powerful in the prequels. After awhile you start thinking you just need a few thousand stormtroopers to beat the jedi
Posted on 1/29/16 at 10:55 pm to prplhze2000
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After awhile you start thinking you just need a few thousand stormtroopers to beat the jedi
Feel like?
The mass slaughtering of the Jedi was just a bunch of guys shooting the Jedi in the back.
They didn't put up a fight or anything.
Posted on 1/30/16 at 12:01 am to Breesus
I was thinking more of the temple slaughter even though Vader helped.
Posted on 1/30/16 at 7:04 am to Fewer Kilometers
quote:Lucas needs a little talking to from Les Grossman.
He gave you Star Wars you ungrateful shits.
"You're a great American. This nation owes you a huge debt. Now shut the frick up!"
Posted on 1/30/16 at 8:21 am to OMLandshark
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There was more creativity with the Force in the scene where Kylo is trying to get inside Rey's mind than there was in the entire Prequel Trilogy. Not to mention Lucas rips off Empire for all its worth when he made "Attack of the Clones". Talk about throwing stones from glass houses.
Wut. They sucked, but at least it was original.
Posted on 1/30/16 at 8:23 am to Bench McElroy
Frick you George Lucas. S.T.F.U. fo lyfe
This post was edited on 1/30/16 at 8:24 am
Posted on 1/30/16 at 8:24 am to Bench McElroy
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George Lucas disappointed with the lack of CGI in The Force Awakens
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