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Gangs of New York has not aged well.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 1/7/17 at 1:20 pm
Rewatched this for the first time in years last night and was kind of disappointed. I know this isn't going to be a popular opinion, but I figured it could make for good discussion.
Cameron Diaz is awful in this and near ruins every scene she's in. The whole love story angle is so forced and takes away from the movie as a whole a lot.
The music montage scenes that Scorcese loves so much are out of place in this movie, although I do think the battle hymn or whatever that recurring piece is when shite is about to go down is excellent. I noticed the sound editing is distractingly poor too, particularly during the opening scrum.
Leo has a very pedestrian performance.
Obviously DDL's Bill the Butcher is one of best performances ever put to film and made erry scene he was in excellent.
There are multiple plot points that are unbelievable leaps, but the movie is so long I started losing track of them.
In hindsight this movie could have been so much better. I like it fwiw, just kind of disappointed cause when I first came out I thought it was so good and now it seems a bit schlocky.
My body is ready for down votes.
Cameron Diaz is awful in this and near ruins every scene she's in. The whole love story angle is so forced and takes away from the movie as a whole a lot.
The music montage scenes that Scorcese loves so much are out of place in this movie, although I do think the battle hymn or whatever that recurring piece is when shite is about to go down is excellent. I noticed the sound editing is distractingly poor too, particularly during the opening scrum.
Leo has a very pedestrian performance.
Obviously DDL's Bill the Butcher is one of best performances ever put to film and made erry scene he was in excellent.
There are multiple plot points that are unbelievable leaps, but the movie is so long I started losing track of them.
In hindsight this movie could have been so much better. I like it fwiw, just kind of disappointed cause when I first came out I thought it was so good and now it seems a bit schlocky.
My body is ready for down votes.
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Posted on 1/7/17 at 1:26 pm to ManBearTiger
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Leo has a very pedestrian performance.
Shocker.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 1:37 pm to ManBearTiger
I agree that the love story was unnecessary, but the film itself was fantastic.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 1:48 pm to ManBearTiger
DVR'd this a few days ago for a rewatch and it has been a job to get through this one, it's so sluggish at times .
Posted on 1/7/17 at 1:50 pm to ManBearTiger
I only watched it for the first time in the past couple years and I liked it more than I thought I would.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 1:53 pm to ManBearTiger
I somewhat agree. DDL carries the movie with his performance.
Cameron Diaz was completely miscast in this and Leo didn't quite have the on screen gravitas yet to go toe-to-toe with Day-Lewis.
Cameron Diaz was completely miscast in this and Leo didn't quite have the on screen gravitas yet to go toe-to-toe with Day-Lewis.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 1:53 pm to ManBearTiger
DDL completely overshadows everything else in this movie. Leo isn't very good and the movie goes downhill when it focuses on him.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 2:01 pm to ManBearTiger
Not one comment you made has anything to do with the film "not aging well".
Posted on 1/7/17 at 2:14 pm to ManBearTiger
I wated it again the other night and thought it was still pretty good.
And I'm not a CD hater. I thought she did pretty well.
And I'm not a CD hater. I thought she did pretty well.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 2:30 pm to GeauxBayouBengals
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Not one comment you made has anything to do with the film "not aging well".
Mainly the sound editing, some of the musical choices, and overly bawdy set designs/props that seem cheap/less than authentic now.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 2:33 pm to ManBearTiger
If this movie were a prequel about DDL and Liam Neeson fighting for control of the Five Points ending in the battle at the beginning of Gangs of New York it would be a lot better. Neeson was great in his brief screen time.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 2:33 pm to ManBearTiger
DDL was so amazing as the Butcher, you could've had Tom Green play Amsterdam and Lena Dunham play Jenny and it still would've somehow been a great movie.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 2:42 pm to ManBearTiger
It may be uneven but the end still gets me every time with the montage of Manhattan and the voiceover.
This post was edited on 1/7/17 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 1/7/17 at 2:53 pm to ManBearTiger
I saw it in the theater and was really moved by it. I remember just sitting in my seat for a while as the U2 song played and could not stop thinking about it.
Cameron Diaz is horrible, but then again, she is horrible in every role she's had except for The Mask. Can't stand her.
Leo was okay.
DDL was amazing. Carries the movie and his character was incredible. How he goes from Bill the Butcher to Abraham Lincoln is amazing to me. Very different characters.
Overall, it was a great movie, but I haven't seen it in a while and can see how it might not have aged well. It is hard to make a great movie for its time and also for all time. Not sure that was the goal, although Goodfellas and Casino still stand up well, so we know Scorsese can do it.
Looking forward to Silence, now that I think of it.
Cameron Diaz is horrible, but then again, she is horrible in every role she's had except for The Mask. Can't stand her.
Leo was okay.
DDL was amazing. Carries the movie and his character was incredible. How he goes from Bill the Butcher to Abraham Lincoln is amazing to me. Very different characters.
Overall, it was a great movie, but I haven't seen it in a while and can see how it might not have aged well. It is hard to make a great movie for its time and also for all time. Not sure that was the goal, although Goodfellas and Casino still stand up well, so we know Scorsese can do it.
Looking forward to Silence, now that I think of it.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 2:59 pm to GeauxBayouBengals
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Not one comment you made has anything to do with the film "not aging well".
Was thinking the same thing. He might not know what the phrase means and is just trying to sound cinema-sophisticated.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 3:01 pm to ManBearTiger
How in the frick can a period piece not age well?
The movie is fantastic.
The movie is fantastic.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 3:22 pm to ManBearTiger
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Cameron Diaz is awful in this and near ruins every scene she's in.
While I don't agree with "awful," she seems miscast and out of place - makes me wonder if this decision was forced on Scorcese or that he saw some potential they weren't able to realize.
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The music montage scenes that Scorcese loves so much are out of place in this movie
Meh. They worked for me. I expect it - it's part of Marty's language.
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Leo has a very pedestrian performance.
He was still developing at that point, but I thought he did alright.
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My body is ready for down votes.
I wouldn't worry about it - the film is not above some very valid criticism. Marty produces a consistently high quality product. The only reason to really revisit this movie is for DDL's character, but that doesn't make the rest of it "bad" per se - just held up at one end so to speak.
Hell, I'm almost the same way about 12 Monkeys as you are about GONY - I think it is a great film. But mainly I think that because of Pitt's performance. That was the film that made me rethink my opinion of him as an actor.
This post was edited on 1/7/17 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 1/7/17 at 3:50 pm to ManBearTiger
its about as historically inaccurate as time period movies get.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 3:56 pm to ManBearTiger
I just thought of this: if you removed Cameron Diaz completely and replaced Leo with Michael Fassbender, I think it would be a total masterpiece. Hell, Fassbender looks like Liam Neeson, so it would be great.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 3:59 pm to ManBearTiger
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Gangs of New York has not aged well.
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