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re: Game of Thrones S5:E6:"Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken", HODORS ONLY(No Book Readers)
Posted on 5/18/15 at 9:19 pm to ohiovol
Posted on 5/18/15 at 9:19 pm to ohiovol
quote:I don't expect him to handle it well, I was responding to an above post.
It's pretty silly to expect Tommen to handle this well. He's a kid who has no business being in charge of anything at this point. It makes perfect sense that he's terrified of causing violence. He's supposed to look weak.
That said, there were quite a few child leaders in our history (under age 14 or so) that were forced into leadership and had a great impact.
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Posted on 5/18/15 at 9:22 pm to ohiovol
Posted on 5/18/15 at 9:25 pm to drizztiger
It makes for an interesting Tommen vs The One True King Lord Joffrey Baratheon comparison. Joffrey would have freaked out in that situation and gotten his guards/queen killed in that situation. Then again, he in his wisdom would have never let "The Faith" or whatever they're called into the palace in the first place.
Posted on 5/18/15 at 10:13 pm to drizztiger
Louis XIV
Posted on 5/18/15 at 10:26 pm to prplhze2000
I just had a random thought:
Maybe when Winter finally comes in full force to Westeros, and Jon is North of The Wall, he'll not only find his long lost Uncle Benjen, but also the Russian from the "Pine Barrens" episode of The Sopranos. I mean, he had to go somewhere, right?
Maybe when Winter finally comes in full force to Westeros, and Jon is North of The Wall, he'll not only find his long lost Uncle Benjen, but also the Russian from the "Pine Barrens" episode of The Sopranos. I mean, he had to go somewhere, right?
Posted on 5/18/15 at 11:24 pm to THRILLHO
Joffrey and Tommen are starting to remind me of Nice Captain Kirk and Evil Captain Kirk.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 1:38 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
quote:Yeah, but anytime you have Bronn exclaiming, "Oh for FOOKS sake", it's gold.
That fight scene with the sand snakes and Jamie and Bronn was so bad. It was like they didn't have any time to rehearse and just went with one take. God it was terrible.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 2:04 am to Sho Nuff
Cersei appointed these religious people to kind of be her military. and everyone in KL is religious so if Tommen were to order his men to capture and/or kill the religious men of 7, it would cause a revolt among the people of the city which is the last thing Tommen is about to do.
Cersei might not realize the overall effect of her actions doing this in the long run as far as the relationship with the Tyrells, but atleast she is in totall control of KL right now and thats all she cares about. keeping that power. because Cersei realized very quickly that Tommen is awe struck by Margeree's tits and wet sliz and she could control him. Cersei very quickly figured a way to not let Margeree do that.
Cersei might not realize the overall effect of her actions doing this in the long run as far as the relationship with the Tyrells, but atleast she is in totall control of KL right now and thats all she cares about. keeping that power. because Cersei realized very quickly that Tommen is awe struck by Margeree's tits and wet sliz and she could control him. Cersei very quickly figured a way to not let Margeree do that.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 2:15 am to Ryan3232
I just don't see any way that appointing the religious police doesn't come back to haunt Cersei. I know it's stupid to make assumptions with this show. I just can't help but think that if they are willing to arrest the queen and her brother over him being gay, her incestuous past has to catch up with her.
It seems to be pretty widely known that she and Jaime are the parents of Tommen as illustrated in this season by the people yelling bastard when he initially went to free Loras. The old lady Tyrell isn't stupid and it would seem that she could easily produce witnesses to put the screws to Cersei if push comes to shove. The Sparrows have made a point of showing that no one is above the law and I don't think Cersei has even considered that she is in any danger. That's a terrible spot to be in with this show.
That almost seems too simple. When it comes to this show you can never be too certain.
It seems to be pretty widely known that she and Jaime are the parents of Tommen as illustrated in this season by the people yelling bastard when he initially went to free Loras. The old lady Tyrell isn't stupid and it would seem that she could easily produce witnesses to put the screws to Cersei if push comes to shove. The Sparrows have made a point of showing that no one is above the law and I don't think Cersei has even considered that she is in any danger. That's a terrible spot to be in with this show.
That almost seems too simple. When it comes to this show you can never be too certain.
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 2:20 am
Posted on 5/19/15 at 6:32 am to HerbTyler985
I thought Tommen would have freed Margery so he could keep having sex with her.
frick that final scene though. Damn.
frick that final scene though. Damn.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 7:53 am to PBnJ
I don't get the hate for this episode. I thought it was great.
Arya's scenes were good as we saw her progressing in her training (and we saw that temple with all the faces).
Sansa had the last tiny bit of innocence remaining taken from her in brutal fashion. If Littlefinger started the process of her coming to grips with the cold harsh realities of the world and dealing with them, this certainly finished it. Not to mention Theon looks to be on the cusp of breaking.
A Tyrion scene provides the best line of the season so far: "The dwarf lives until we find a cock merchant".
I will say the fight scene in Dorne was bad but now they have 2 Lannisters seemingly under their control there.
The political play in KL is interesting. And is really what seems to be the mood of this season - political moves and not as much action which I am fine with.
Arya's scenes were good as we saw her progressing in her training (and we saw that temple with all the faces).
Sansa had the last tiny bit of innocence remaining taken from her in brutal fashion. If Littlefinger started the process of her coming to grips with the cold harsh realities of the world and dealing with them, this certainly finished it. Not to mention Theon looks to be on the cusp of breaking.
A Tyrion scene provides the best line of the season so far: "The dwarf lives until we find a cock merchant".
I will say the fight scene in Dorne was bad but now they have 2 Lannisters seemingly under their control there.
The political play in KL is interesting. And is really what seems to be the mood of this season - political moves and not as much action which I am fine with.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 8:05 am to PBnJ
Rape is a terrible thing. However, I don't really understand all the outrage over that scene. It's my understanding that it's not in the books and that provokes anger with readers, and of course other chronically offended groups looking to stump on a convenient platform.
I mean.. What did people expect to happen? The Boltons flay people alive. Roose told his son that he was conceived from rape. Ramsay had his dogs eat a girl alive. He quite literally emasculated Theon and made him lose his sense of self. Sadism is normal behavior for them. The show has gone far beyond what happened in this episode many times before, so I'm a little confused at the reaction.
I mean.. What did people expect to happen? The Boltons flay people alive. Roose told his son that he was conceived from rape. Ramsay had his dogs eat a girl alive. He quite literally emasculated Theon and made him lose his sense of self. Sadism is normal behavior for them. The show has gone far beyond what happened in this episode many times before, so I'm a little confused at the reaction.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 9:31 am to stevo1905
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However, I don't really understand all the outrage over that scene.
Because the last few episodes we've been led to believe that Sansa has changed and she is going to get revenge on the people who killed her family. The whole audience is waiting for something good to finally happen for Sansa, but nope, she gets bent over and fricked while a pointless, dickless, blubbering character stands and watches.
Seriously, it's just bad storytelling at this point. The scene also serves to show that Reek is under Ramsay's control, which has been the case for two seasons now. WE GET IT. Ramsay is crazy and Reek is his pet. Enough already. Where is the payoff?
Scenes from next week show that Sansa is talking to Reek about still having friends in the North. Well we already knew that too, several weeks ago. Why didn't she light a candle and put it in the watchtower?
I think a lot of the outrage is less about the rape and more about the weak storytelling this season. It's gotten ridiculous and my first thought after watching the final scene was that the show jumped the shark, not that the rape was offensive.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 9:38 am to Stonehog
That scene served more of a purpose that you're giving it credit for.
It showed us that Ramsey's crazy truly doesn't have an off switch. Even in that moment on his wedding night, he cannot be anything other than a sociopathic sadist. Torturing a prisoner (even for fun) is one thing, but that was a whole different depth of depravity on display.
Dude is fricked up even by this show's standards.
It showed us that Ramsey's crazy truly doesn't have an off switch. Even in that moment on his wedding night, he cannot be anything other than a sociopathic sadist. Torturing a prisoner (even for fun) is one thing, but that was a whole different depth of depravity on display.
Dude is fricked up even by this show's standards.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 9:47 am to Stonehog
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Because the last few episodes we've been led to believe that Sansa has changed and she is going to get revenge on the people who killed her family. The whole audience is waiting for something good to finally happen for Sansa, but nope, she gets bent over and fricked while a pointless, dickless, blubbering character stands and watches.
Seriously, it's just bad storytelling at this point. The scene also serves to show that Reek is under Ramsay's control, which has been the case for two seasons now. WE GET IT. Ramsay is crazy and Reek is his pet. Enough already. Where is the payoff?
It's not like she died so the payoff can still be coming. And I think it was pretty clear throughout that Theon might be breaking back to Theon. With a little push from Sansa he might revolt against his master
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Scenes from next week show that Sansa is talking to Reek about still having friends in the North. Well we already knew that too, several weeks ago. Why didn't she light a candle and put it in the watchtower?
While getting raped? She was going to go through with the wedding. We knew this already. She might put the candle there next week. We don't know yet
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I think a lot of the outrage is less about the rape and more about the weak storytelling this season. It's gotten ridiculous and my first thought after watching the final scene was that the show jumped the shark, not that the rape was offensive.
Agree to disagree here
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:19 am to Roger Klarvin
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It showed us that Ramsey's crazy truly doesn't have an off switch.
Like the audience needed more convincing that Ramsay is crazy.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:35 am to Stonehog
Like I said, there is crazy and then there is forcing your wife's childhood friend whom you have personally castrated watch as you rape her on your wedding night.
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 10:35 am
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:38 am to Roger Klarvin
Did you forget the scene where Ramsay hunts down his girlfriend and lets his dogs eat her alive?
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:48 am to drizztiger
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That said, there were quite a few child leaders in our history (under age 14 or so) that were forced into leadership and had a great impact.
There were also child leaders throughout world history who were complete and total failures.
Posted on 5/19/15 at 10:51 am to Stonehog
My two cents on the rape thing...
This series shows people being tortured, degradated, hacked to pieces... I didn't like seeing that rape scene, but then I don't like seeing men getting their penises cut off, or people burned alive, or their hands chopped off...
This series shows people being tortured, degradated, hacked to pieces... I didn't like seeing that rape scene, but then I don't like seeing men getting their penises cut off, or people burned alive, or their hands chopped off...
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