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Fantastic Four - Michael Chabon's Script
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:19 am
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:19 am
Michael Chabon is one of my favorite authors, but I was unaware that he made a pitch for the Fantastic Four. Had a meeting with the producers and everything. They didn't go in his direction, unfortunately, and we were left with the crappy movies we got (and it appears, we are going to get again). anyway, I thought it would be interesting to y'all to see how a Pulitzer Prize winning author would tackle the FF.
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Go read it, it's pretty interesting.
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The first thing I want to say is that the Fantastic Four are not about Darkness.
This might seem obvious but I think it's very important. They were conceived in another era; they have silly powers; their very name says it all. Not the Savage Four, the Shadowy Four, the Vengeful Four--the Fantastic Four, charged with the miraculous power of radiation, squabbling, fooling around, exploring other dimensions, worrying about college and sex and their physical appearances, and, above all, bursting with a childlike sense of wonder.
They are about wonder, the FF. Not Darkness.
So here's how I see the movie.
The world of the movie is a timeless, more innocent world, a world where Evil lives behind an Iron Curtain on the Dark Side of the planet, a world where, even in 1995, it is always November 21, 1963. Men still wear hats, kids are into hot rods and spaceships, women have bouffant hairdos, and New York City is the vibrant, shiny capital of the Free World. A Technicolor, bossa nova, Douglas Sirk world. A world where radiation is not only terrifying and evil but also capable of producing wonders and miracles. A world of amazing machinery and devices. There is wickedness, to be sure, and there are bad people, and it takes the eternal vigilance of a few stalwart champions to keep our shores from being overrun, our homes and towns from being infested from within, by the emissaries of darkness. Fortunately such champions exist: the Fantastic Four.
It's also, and I think it's important to some how get the sense of this--wonder, again--into the movie, a world of hidden cities, secret island laboratories, remote Central European countries where feats of incredible technology are performed, orbiting outposts of alien intelligences, underground kingdoms, etc.
I don't think the movie should be about how they got their powers. It's a pretty goofy origin story.
Go read it, it's pretty interesting.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:27 am to Baloo
Love Chabon but wish that he wouldn't refer to superheroes as being silly. I understand what he's trying to say, and that he means silly in a fun and entertaining way, but it always comes across to me that he has a slight embarrassment when it comes to his love of comics.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:58 am to Baloo
he sounds like he grew up on Stan Lee and Jack Kirby's initial run and never moved on from it.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 11:04 am to BlacknGold
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he sounds like he grew up on Stan Lee and Jack Kirby's initial run and never moved on from it.
Nothing wrong with that. I think his main beef is that everyone seems to be afraid to make the Fantastic Four fantastic. Which is understandable. Tough to do what Kirby did on those pages with a finite budget. Kirby's only limitation was the size and number of the pages.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 11:50 am to Fewer Kilometers
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Love Chabon but wish that he wouldn't refer to superheroes as being silly. I understand what he's trying to say, and that he means silly in a fun and entertaining way, but it always comes across to me that he has a slight embarrassment when it comes to his love of comics.
Well said.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 12:29 pm to Freauxzen
See, and I think FF will always be a Silver Age comic (if not THE Silver age comic). That is its golden age and by far its best run. Since Kirby left, FF's sales have been in decline and it has never been one of Marvel's powerhouse titles (though it holds a special place due to its history).
But I think in an era in which every comic book, and its adaptation, is in a race to see how dark and moody it can be, it is worth holding up FF as the Light. The fact we instinctively see that as a negative is a bit of a shame.
FF IS silly. That's why its so great.
But I think in an era in which every comic book, and its adaptation, is in a race to see how dark and moody it can be, it is worth holding up FF as the Light. The fact we instinctively see that as a negative is a bit of a shame.
FF IS silly. That's why its so great.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 1:39 pm to Baloo
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But I think in an era in which every comic book, and its adaptation, is in a race to see how dark and moody it can be, it is worth holding up FF as the Light. The fact we instinctively see that as a negative is a bit of a shame.
FF IS silly. That's why its so great.
I agree and I think that if one guy could do it, it would be Chabon. He has such a love for comics that I think he would do everything to make it perfect.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 1:57 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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I think his main beef is that everyone seems to be afraid to make the Fantastic Four fantastic. Which is understandable. Tough to do what Kirby did on those pages with a finite budget. Kirby's only limitation was the size and number of the pages.
What's sad is that even though technology has advanced to the point where it could be feasible, Fox seems to want to go in the other direction.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 2:26 pm to Baloo
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See, and I think FF will always be a Silver Age comic (if not THE Silver age comic). That is its golden age and by far its best run. Since Kirby left, FF's sales have been in decline and it has never been one of Marvel's powerhouse titles (though it holds a special place due to its history).
But I think in an era in which every comic book, and its adaptation, is in a race to see how dark and moody it can be, it is worth holding up FF as the Light. The fact we instinctively see that as a negative is a bit of a shame.
FF IS silly. That's why its so great.
I wouldn't be against this take of FF, but I don't think the modern MCU is dark and moody. It's maybe the one external MCU property, out of X-Men, Spider-Man, FF, that would be natural fit to slide in here.
Chabon's script sounds like it isolates them to the their own world. I'm not sure if that would work well or not. Maybe so, he's talented enough to pull it off.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 3:10 pm to Baloo
I think Chabon's treatment could be a lot of fun, and true to the original. Maybe the success of guardians of the galaxy will enable more light hearted comic movies.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 3:43 pm to Baloo
The FF movies we got were not dark and moody at all. They were sanitized and Disney-fied, and that's what sucked the most for me (along with the casting of Invisible Woman). I don't need FF to be dark like Batman but the Avengers sets a great tone.
I agree about not dwelling on the origin story though. Its not interesting and most people know it, and it could be easily explained in a short summary or flashback.
I agree about not dwelling on the origin story though. Its not interesting and most people know it, and it could be easily explained in a short summary or flashback.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 3:53 pm to biglego
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I agree about not dwelling on the origin story though. Its not interesting and most people know it, and it could be easily explained in a short summary or flashback.
More of these films need to begin with an action scene. Show the FF in action then cut to a news story that brings you up to date on the origin.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 3:59 pm to Fewer Kilometers
agree! so tired of an entire movie being spent on origins.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:00 pm to BlacknGold
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agree! so tired of an entire movie being spent on origins.
Look like we won't have to worry with that in the upcoming DC movies.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:30 pm to biglego
would FF have more success if they were set in the 60s like x-men: first class?
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:02 pm to BlacknGold
I doubt it. First Class was great but I don't think it would add anything interesting to have FF in the 60s. I don't think moviegoers have a huge desire to have movies set 50yrs ago.
Posted on 9/27/14 at 5:23 pm to biglego
well i was getting at would setting it in the same era they debuted in help regain the charm of the series? helped xmen.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 12:28 pm to Baloo
No wonder he did not get chosen. That is a lot of fluff to day nothing really of substance.
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