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re: Falling Skies - final season is good

Posted on 8/31/15 at 12:25 am to
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 8/31/15 at 12:25 am to
I'm going to use this episode if I ever need to define anti-climactic and plot armor to someone.

LOL when Pope dies right there and gets the shaft by the Masons again because Tom doesn't give him to the Dornia, just leaves his lifeless corpse on the beach.

What kind of dumb as frick alien species has the entire population explode if ONE member dies?

My favorite part of the final scene was when Tom glanced over to the ghostly apparitions of Lexi, Lourdes, and the newly appearing Marty, and winked...right before the cut to cheering Ewoks (obviously the pointy stick-bearing primitives the Espheni mistook for humans).

I could write a better finale by just mashing my arse cheeks against the keyboard.
Posted by JustForThisThread
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 8/31/15 at 2:47 pm to
Yea, just unbelievably bad. So many things but just not worth the time and effort to type all my gripes with that finale.

-Pope comes back just to die?
-Espheni queen looks like a spider when all the overlords are some kind of humanoid?
-Espheni came to earth before and got beat by primitive humans with spears but almost destroyed modern humans? I laughed at my tv when this was revealed. They have to be the dumbest universe traveling aliens ever.

Everyone lives happily ever after.

Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 8/31/15 at 3:37 pm to
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I dont know if I have the wear-with-all to finish this up

"Wherewithal" is actually a word, bruh.


I watched half the finale last night but was falling asleep, so I need to finish it. But it's been laughbale how bad this season has been. I love the deus ex machina device that the random alien gave Tom a couple episodes ago, and then somehow, fricking magically, Anne and the other dude are able to test and manipulate it and change its intent. I guess the creators just completly forgot that she was a fricking pediatrician before the war, yet she's now some sort of bioligical scientist able to manipulate alien tech with fairly primitive equipment.

And I saw in here that Pope comes back? Get the frick out of here, man...please tell me that's not true.

It was bad enough the amount of Pope in this season, especially with the terrible acting and the character going rogue, but he's "died" like three times now. But I guess it makes sense based on how he "died" last episode...they're having a shootout (with everyone just standing in the open and not getting shot, mind you), and randomly Tom shoots a barrel and it explodes and we see a pile of rubble where Pope was just standing. It was so laughably stupid that I actually cringed when I saw it. And that was after he made it back to the camp pretending to be wounded/dead by laying on his side. So I guess nobody in the Second Mass could recognize Pope anymore? Also hilarious how the black dude (Anthony) is back for like five minutes after betraying the whole unit and especially Weaver, and he expects Weaver to let him join in on the most important mission of the whole war? GTFO of here, mayne.
Posted by SoDakHawk
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Posted on 8/31/15 at 4:19 pm to
Yeah but you guys are forgetting about Tom Mason's inspirational speeches, there was one every episode this season, I swear. Weaver left that traitor to hold down the fort, gave him the very important "I trust you" speech. Matt, I freaking hated that kid, is now some sort of historical writer. All the Heads of State won't do anything without consulting with the great Tom Mason, but he doesn't want to be President, he's just a teacher. Blahh, it was just puke-worthy.

Best part was when they made that wall around DC out of mutated human body parts. Those new militia guys came in and they wondered why they don't just hop on one of Cochise's space ships and blast the queen away from the sky. You know you were all thinking it too. That was so freaking comical. Cochise just stood there all stupid and was just like "yeah, we can't do that, it won't work."

Man, Pope should have won. That would have been the perfect ending.

Just thinking of how bad that show was, I am going to miss it.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 8/31/15 at 4:45 pm to
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I love the deus ex machina device that the random alien gave Tom a couple episodes ago, and then somehow, fricking magically, Anne and the other dude are able to test and manipulate it and change its intent. I guess the creators just completly forgot that she was a fricking pediatrician before the war, yet she's now some sort of bioligical scientist able to manipulate alien tech with fairly primitive equipment.

Oh did you forget how she got the help of a brewery engineer/biologist/or whatever he was. You know that brewing beer gives you all of the experience and knowledge needed in altering alien bio-weapons.

quote:

I watched half the finale last night but was falling asleep, so I need to finish it.

Trust me...you don't.
This post was edited on 8/31/15 at 4:46 pm
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 8/31/15 at 5:47 pm to
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I watched half the finale last night but was falling asleep, so I need to finish it.

Trust me...you don'


I was thinking it was so bad, i might have to catch it on-demand again this week just to see
Posted by Sentrius
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 8/31/15 at 6:08 pm to
Like I said, this show is the very definition of plot armor and anti-climatic.

I was thinking that Anne was definitely going to die but then I remembered that she's married to a mason. The plot armor of the masons is just fricking invincible.
Posted by lsusa
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Posted on 8/31/15 at 6:34 pm to
Here is what pisses me off about this show....

I understand in science "fiction" there has to be a certain amount of the suspension of disbelief. But what makes the story compelling is that there is an element of "realism" to it (at least with shows like Falling Skies or Independence Day are supposed to be).


What the draw of this show was, is "in the event of this fictictional/fantastic scenario" how would normal people react?

I can accept adding a few plot devices to facilitate communication between us and the aliens to move the drama along....but in the end I want us to "win" the war because of the great things about humanity and not because of some "deus ex machina" BS given to us by other aliens that already got their a-- kicked.

In the end, I think about the only non clichéd thing this show did was not having Pope fully redeem himself....and even then the inclusion of him was lame.
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 8/31/15 at 8:19 pm to
The show is over. Go now in peace. I was entertained. It had potential in earlier seasons. Kept watching in hope that potential might become actualized. Somewhere in the last 2 seasons it dawned on me that this is degenerated to just comic book level science fiction. Thus lower expectations, thus I could stay until the end, and thus I am not P.O.'d by all the loose ends.
Posted by Orphan
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Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 8/31/15 at 8:42 pm to
Something about this show kept me coming back every week. Don't know what it was....maybe some kind of hope it would get better?.

I agree on how bad the ending was. Hopefully the new show for the time slot is better.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:07 pm to
these reviews are great. Spot on.

I just watched finale.

Crap. That sums it up.

I watched this for entertainment. Time waster.

It's over. Thanks be to Tom.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 9/1/15 at 9:06 am to
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Trust me...you don't.

Oh, but I did...and Lord, did it not disappoint. It was fantastically awful. And sorry, this is really long...but I was just blown away with how awesomely bad this finale was.

So I had stopped when they were underground in the tunnels, and came upon those Alien-type egg things. That's where I picked up last night.

First off, it was completely convenient that the black soldier dude was there at the camp, as he grew up in DC and used to go get drunk with his friends in the underground, top-secret tunnels used to get high-level politicians around the city in the event of an emergency. And he was there so much that he could simply map out the tunnel system from memory. Good thing he was there, otherwise the plan was doomed.

So they get down in the tunnels, and see these egg things. They are trying to be SO quiet as to not wake up the creatures, but they end up waking a couple of them up anyway, and they wreak havoc on the team before black soldier cartographer guy decides to shoot a grenade from his weapon. Well, that's smart because it's not like you're underground or anything....oh, right..

So he's dead, and Tom is separated from everyone else, and happens to have the weapon and be on the right side of the rubble. Good thing that happened, otherwise this plan wouldn't have worked.

Also interesting how they were trying to whisper since loud noises/voices wake these creatures up, yet a giant gun battle and a fricking grenade explosion didn't manage to wake those things up. Which is good though, because all the eggs were on Tom's side, so had one woken up and hatched, the plan would have failed.

Random note: I absolutely loved how the Washington Monument was on fire about 2/3 of the way up. I've seen the WM before, and I'm not sure how it could just randomly be on fire. That was hilarious.

So this whole invasion was because of one reason: revenge for the Queen's daughter? Nice. So after all of this, the queen is just mad because her daughter was defeated by humans with bowstaffs and spears. And instead of killing Mason within seconds of seeing him (and then eating him, as promised), she hocks a loogie at him and has him pinned against a wall (right next to the alien device that's supposed to wipe them out) and then she randomly decides to tell Tom her fricking life story. Good thing she didn't kill him immediately, like every other thing she's contacted, or else this plan would've backfired and done nothing. I guess she was like "I'll just drink some of his blood and that way he'll think I'm a gigantic mosquito, lolzz."

Did Anne not know she was hit? And when was that? I assume it was after black soldier Amerigo fricking Vespucci decided to doom everyone to Hell by shooting a grenade in a small, enclosed tunnel. Why would she not tell anyone anything? Especially considering she is a doctor and they had medical kits with them? Good call, you moranne.

So after the Queen's speech and all that, did she not manage to notice that Mason was reaching for some bright arse glowy thing the whole time? Might wanna pay attention to that, your highness.

So wait a second...they (a pediatrician and a beer brewer) engineered this alien biotech to not affect/attack/go after humans, but in the end, it latches onto Tom's hand and THAT'S how it infects and kills the Queen, which in turn hilariously kills every other alien on Earth? (the ones exploding in the air were particularly hilarious) How the frick does that work? It was specifically supposed to not frick with humans, yet it latches onto Tom's hand no problem. That was so laughably stupid. He could've simply tossed it at her, since he knows that's how it works anyway from when he saw Ben throw it at Lexi the episode before (which now that I think about it, Ben was part Espheni, so it should've killed him immediately). Makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, but why make logical decisions anymore when the plot is so overly stupid at this point anyway I guess..

I loved how Tom picks up Anne and is all like "I have to go somewhere," and NOT A SINGLE frickING PERSON wants to go with him or follows him. Was anybody at all curious as to what the frick he was doing? Or, you know, since you've all made him out to be the most important man on the planet, and you finally got him back into your group, wouldn't it be a solid idea to not let him go wandering off by himself? Just because aliens are exploding ( ) everywhere doesn't mean things are safe exactly. Nah, we'll just let him walk off with his dead wife all by himself...nobody help him carry her or anything, because frick that.

And right on cue, of course fricking Pope shows up. How hilarious was that whole scene? Pope has literally been trying to kill Mason for weeks now, and he has his chance, but he decides not only to not do that, but to give Mason his gun and let him turn the tables instead. And ....welp, nevermind. None of that mattered anyway because Pope was literally on the verge of death. He was on the verge of death, yet somehow managed to not only know exactly where Mason was (which literally no other human being knew), but he managed to get there on his own power...only to die 90 seconds later. Nice.

So now Matt, the most annoying fricking Mason of the family (which is an impressive feat in itself) is some sort of historian for what happened? Awesome. It's bad enough I had to sit through five seasons of that little twat whining about everything, now everyone in the world has to read his bullshite too? Fantastic.

I loved how Tom's speech at the end was literally inside the structure of the Lincoln memorial, as opposed to outside on the steps where MLK's was. You know, where everybody could actually see/hear you? Nah, let's have it inside there where about 30 people can know what's going on and the rest are just chilling outside wondering why the hell they're there in the first place and why there is a giant wall of dead bodies right over there.




This was easily one of the worst TV shows I've ever watched, and what's amazing is that I stuck with it for the entire run of the series. The subject matter was so interesting and awesome that I got hooked early, despite the truly awful acting and plots, and it was so bad that it kept me interested to see how weird it could get. And the show certainly didn't disappoint on that front, especially this last season. And I actually thought the middle seasons (maybe late S2 through early S4) weren't too bad (at least comparatively). Oh, and Tom's "I'm just a teacher" line, and him dropping that he'd already turned down the presidency twice are just so extraordinarily fricking arrogant that it makes me cringe. Maybe Pope was the protagonist all along...hmmm........
This post was edited on 9/1/15 at 9:17 am
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 9/1/15 at 9:39 am to
Can someone explain the alien casts? The queen is a spider, yet the overlords are humanoids? The mosquitoes? What hatches from the eggs?
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 9/1/15 at 9:59 am to
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So this whole invasion was because of one reason: revenge for the Queen's daughter? Nice. So after all of this, the queen is just mad because her daughter was defeated by humans with bowstaffs and spears. And instead of killing Mason within seconds of seeing him (and then eating him, as promised), she hocks a loogie at him and has him pinned against a wall (right next to the alien device that's supposed to wipe them out) and then she randomly decides to tell Tom her fricking life story. Good thing she didn't kill him immediately, like every other thing she's contacted, or else this plan would've backfired and done nothing. I guess she was like "I'll just drink some of his blood and that way he'll think I'm a gigantic mosquito, lolzz.


so the Queen was a Bond villain
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 9/1/15 at 10:02 am to
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-Pope comes back just to die?

I seriously believe that one of the producers thinks that Colin Cunningham (John Pope) is some sort of fantastic actor, and thus kept bringing him back. That has to be the explanation, aside from soem sort of blackmail that CC had on a producer or something.

But it seems like Pope was always overacting dramatically, and I have to assume that someone high up thought he was great, otherwise we wouldn't have had him shoved down our collective throats all season long. But Pope even died all dramatically, with the long gaze and last breath that took forever as his head sunk into his chest.

It's laughable that someone thinks he's a good actor (based on this show at least).

Also, my annoyance of Will Patton's speech patterns in this show finally came to a hilt last night. He pronounces his S's just like Herbert from Family Guy, and last night it finally grated right into my nerves. And I notmally like Will Patton.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 9/1/15 at 10:22 am to
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Can someone explain the alien casts? The queen is a spider, yet the overlords are humanoids? The mosquitoes? What hatches from the eggs?

No idea, man.

So the Espheni are the overlords, but the skitters are not the same species, right? So what is the Queen? If she is the same species as the Espheni, then I get all of them dying, but wouldn't that mean that all the skitters are still alive and well on Earth and still need to be taken out?

As for the flying bug things, I've been reading on Falling Skies Wiki that they are mutated skitters called Black Hornets. And that skitters are based off of (mutated from) the Dornia.

So you originally had the Dornia, which were basically the Espheni's greatest foe. Then skitters came from the Dornia, and skitters eventually morphed into Black Hornets.

So if the Espeheni Queen wasn't even the same species as the skitters/hornets, then why would killing her make all of the explode? Additionally, it should've made the last remaining Dornia chick (that was helping Tom) die as well, but we know she isn't dead because (I assume) she is the one in the lake/ocean that Tom spoke to and who brought Anne back to life.

Man, the more I am reading about this shite, the less sense it actually makes.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 9/1/15 at 11:34 am to
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so the Queen was a Bond villain

He caught her monologuing.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 9/1/15 at 12:20 pm to
So let me get this straight. The Espheni were so scared of an alien race (that turns out to be a race they already conquered and enslaved), that they had to build some sort of power station on the moon in order to power a war machine to fight them? And it turns out there is only one of these scary aliens left alive that was causing so much fear from the Espheni? I mean the Dornia were supposed to be the very first alien race that they enslaved, and the Volm thought they were extinct for hundreds of years (I guess because there again, there is only one of them left). So what in the hell did the Espheni need with a war machine that had to have a power station so large it had to be built on the moon in order to fight against a single alien that apparently could only get to the Espheni with Tom Mason's help?
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 9/1/15 at 12:26 pm to
I think you're a bit confused. This war (and the power station on the moon) wasn't to defeat the Dornia...they had already done that long ago, and enslaved the Dornia and turned them into skitters (and more).

This war, and that station and whatnot, was to conquer Earth/humans, all for revenge for the Queen's daughter that tried the same thing 1,500 years ago and failed. So the Queen vowed to return to Earth "a thousand times stronger" to avenge her daughter.

And the fricking Volm, well they thought the Queen was just a myth as well. So while they did offer some intel and a couple weapons, for the most part they were just confused the whole time and weren't that big of a help in the grand scheme of things. Like someone said earlier, the Volm had the technology to fight against the Espheni, yet they never did shite.
Posted by JustForThisThread
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 9/1/15 at 12:35 pm to
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No idea, man.

So the Espheni are the overlords, but the skitters are not the same species, right? So what is the Queen? If she is the same species as the Espheni, then I get all of them dying, but wouldn't that mean that all the skitters are still alive and well on Earth and still need to be taken out?

As for the flying bug things, I've been reading on Falling Skies Wiki that they are mutated skitters called Black Hornets. And that skitters are based off of (mutated from) the Dornia.

So you originally had the Dornia, which were basically the Espheni's greatest foe. Then skitters came from the Dornia, and skitters eventually morphed into Black Hornets.

So if the Espeheni Queen wasn't even the same species as the skitters/hornets, then why would killing her make all of the explode? Additionally, it should've made the last remaining Dornia chick (that was helping Tom) die as well, but we know she isn't dead because (I assume) she is the one in the lake/ocean that Tom spoke to and who brought Anne back to life.

Man, the more I am reading about this shite, the less sense it actually makes.


You have put way to much thought into this show.

That was my question, why does the Espheni Queen look like a spider and the other Espheni, the giant tall humanoid walking Overlords, look the way they do.
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