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Ex Machina Question...potential spoilers
Posted on 6/28/15 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 6/28/15 at 5:33 pm
When Caleb cuts himself with the razor in the bathroom, what was that all about?
Posted on 6/28/15 at 5:33 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
i assumed he was making sure he wasnt a robot
Posted on 6/28/15 at 5:35 pm to geauxjuice
That's was my first guess too but I wasn't sure. That seemed too obvious
Posted on 6/28/15 at 5:35 pm to geauxjuice
quote:
i assumed he was making sure he wasnt a robot
Posted on 6/28/15 at 5:38 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
i mean at that point in the movie i was looking at my girlfriend like she was a robot
Posted on 6/28/15 at 5:38 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
quote:
That's was my first guess too but I wasn't sure. That seemed too obvious
I think that's what it is, but if you try to dig deeper the only thing I can think of is to convince Nathan that he's losing it
Posted on 6/28/15 at 5:40 pm to WITNESS23
quote:Nathan confronts him about it the next morning. So it's plausible.
Nathan that he's losing it
Posted on 6/28/15 at 5:41 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
She passed the test. He worries that he's AI because he can't see a difference.
Posted on 6/28/15 at 5:53 pm to SwaggerCopter
This is the answer except it should read, "He passed the test."
Posted on 6/28/15 at 5:53 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
Ava was so convincing to him that he questioned whether or not he was really human. Because he fell in love with her.
Posted on 6/28/15 at 6:07 pm to Peazey
Just watched it this afternoon. Loved it. My only question is what was going on when Caleb first saw Ava through the TV monitors. He was all like WTF but really there was nothing going on. A moment later the lights went out. What was that all about?
Posted on 6/28/15 at 6:10 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
What I loved about that scene is that came in within 10 minutes of me thinking "he is for sure a Robert, no doubt"
Posted on 6/28/15 at 7:10 pm to Dire Wolf
My favorite movie this year
Posted on 6/28/15 at 7:14 pm to geauxjuice
quote:
i mean at that point in the movie i was looking at my girlfriend like she was a robot
Posted on 6/28/15 at 7:19 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
that was an odd movie, I watched it last night. The ultimate "friend zoned" ending.
That dude got played so hard.
That dude got played so hard.
Posted on 6/28/15 at 7:46 pm to Napoleon
In the end, its all about the fact that we (the audience) we're the actual Turing Test.
At the end of the movie, did you care enough to want Ava and Him to end up together. Did you believe that she would have the emotion to want the happily ever after? Did you loose perspective that she was a robot at any point?
By far my favorite movie of the year, and my favorite movie since Inception.
At the end of the movie, did you care enough to want Ava and Him to end up together. Did you believe that she would have the emotion to want the happily ever after? Did you loose perspective that she was a robot at any point?
By far my favorite movie of the year, and my favorite movie since Inception.
Posted on 6/28/15 at 8:00 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
I think geauxjuice had it right.
But as long as we've got an ex machina questions thread, I've got one more. Exactly how much was Nathan cheating at his own Turing test?
The whole point of the test as he describes it was to see if Ava could escape her "rat maze" using the one tool Nathan placed at her disposal; Caleb. We know Nathan is helping push Caleb towards Ava, as evidenced by the picturing tearing scene. But how much of the rest of their interaction was geared around helping her pass this test? He makes it clear that Caleb can have sex with ava. He pushes the narrative that she would be attracted to Caleb. But are these just aspects of the way Nathan sees the world/his creation, or is he actively working towards pushing that relationship, as he did by basing Ava's looks on caleb's porn profile?
Going back to the picture tearing scene, immediately after he tears the picture he returns to that awesome dance scene and gives Caleb (and the audience) the impression that he was hammered drunk. But he seems completely in control, speaking clearly when with Ava immediately before. So if this drunk scene was faked, or at the least staged, can we wonder if his entire drinking problem is a false character trait that he consciensly developed to make himself less appealing to Caleb, thereby increasing the chance he helps Ava?
Super long rant, I know. But this was the one thing stopping me from saying this was a strong movie of the year candidate. I just couldn't figure out exactly how much he was cheating at his own turning test, verses actually just being the version of himself he presented
But as long as we've got an ex machina questions thread, I've got one more. Exactly how much was Nathan cheating at his own Turing test?
The whole point of the test as he describes it was to see if Ava could escape her "rat maze" using the one tool Nathan placed at her disposal; Caleb. We know Nathan is helping push Caleb towards Ava, as evidenced by the picturing tearing scene. But how much of the rest of their interaction was geared around helping her pass this test? He makes it clear that Caleb can have sex with ava. He pushes the narrative that she would be attracted to Caleb. But are these just aspects of the way Nathan sees the world/his creation, or is he actively working towards pushing that relationship, as he did by basing Ava's looks on caleb's porn profile?
Going back to the picture tearing scene, immediately after he tears the picture he returns to that awesome dance scene and gives Caleb (and the audience) the impression that he was hammered drunk. But he seems completely in control, speaking clearly when with Ava immediately before. So if this drunk scene was faked, or at the least staged, can we wonder if his entire drinking problem is a false character trait that he consciensly developed to make himself less appealing to Caleb, thereby increasing the chance he helps Ava?
Super long rant, I know. But this was the one thing stopping me from saying this was a strong movie of the year candidate. I just couldn't figure out exactly how much he was cheating at his own turning test, verses actually just being the version of himself he presented
Posted on 6/28/15 at 8:14 pm to funnystuff
Has anyone posed the likelihood that we were watching Ava's sessions, not Nathan's sessions of Ava?
Posted on 6/28/15 at 8:40 pm to funnystuff
I think Nathan screwed himself whenever he told Caleb he could have sex with Ava. At that point Caleb was determined to get Ava out of there.
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