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Ex Machina Question...potential spoilers

Posted on 6/28/15 at 5:33 pm
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 6/28/15 at 5:33 pm
When Caleb cuts himself with the razor in the bathroom, what was that all about?
Posted by geauxjuice
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/28/15 at 5:33 pm to
i assumed he was making sure he wasnt a robot
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 6/28/15 at 5:35 pm to
That's was my first guess too but I wasn't sure. That seemed too obvious
Posted by Murray
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Posted on 6/28/15 at 5:35 pm to
quote:

i assumed he was making sure he wasnt a robot
Posted by geauxjuice
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Posted on 6/28/15 at 5:38 pm to
i mean at that point in the movie i was looking at my girlfriend like she was a robot
Posted by WITNESS23
Member since Feb 2010
13720 posts
Posted on 6/28/15 at 5:38 pm to
quote:

That's was my first guess too but I wasn't sure. That seemed too obvious



I think that's what it is, but if you try to dig deeper the only thing I can think of is to convince Nathan that he's losing it
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/28/15 at 5:40 pm to
quote:

Nathan that he's losing it

Nathan confronts him about it the next morning. So it's plausible.
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/28/15 at 5:41 pm to
She passed the test. He worries that he's AI because he can't see a difference.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 6/28/15 at 5:53 pm to


This is the answer except it should read, "He passed the test."
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 6/28/15 at 5:53 pm to
Ava was so convincing to him that he questioned whether or not he was really human. Because he fell in love with her.
Posted by HideChaKidz
Member since Oct 2010
7372 posts
Posted on 6/28/15 at 6:07 pm to
Just watched it this afternoon. Loved it. My only question is what was going on when Caleb first saw Ava through the TV monitors. He was all like WTF but really there was nothing going on. A moment later the lights went out. What was that all about?
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Member since Sep 2008
36569 posts
Posted on 6/28/15 at 6:10 pm to
What I loved about that scene is that came in within 10 minutes of me thinking "he is for sure a Robert, no doubt"


Posted by Civildawg
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 6/28/15 at 7:10 pm to
My favorite movie this year
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
44788 posts
Posted on 6/28/15 at 7:14 pm to
quote:

i mean at that point in the movie i was looking at my girlfriend like she was a robot



Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69047 posts
Posted on 6/28/15 at 7:19 pm to
that was an odd movie, I watched it last night. The ultimate "friend zoned" ending.
That dude got played so hard.
Posted by Paedin
Tampa, Florida
Member since Apr 2012
2290 posts
Posted on 6/28/15 at 7:46 pm to
In the end, its all about the fact that we (the audience) we're the actual Turing Test.

At the end of the movie, did you care enough to want Ava and Him to end up together. Did you believe that she would have the emotion to want the happily ever after? Did you loose perspective that she was a robot at any point?

By far my favorite movie of the year, and my favorite movie since Inception.
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
8320 posts
Posted on 6/28/15 at 8:00 pm to
I think geauxjuice had it right.

But as long as we've got an ex machina questions thread, I've got one more. Exactly how much was Nathan cheating at his own Turing test?

The whole point of the test as he describes it was to see if Ava could escape her "rat maze" using the one tool Nathan placed at her disposal; Caleb. We know Nathan is helping push Caleb towards Ava, as evidenced by the picturing tearing scene. But how much of the rest of their interaction was geared around helping her pass this test? He makes it clear that Caleb can have sex with ava. He pushes the narrative that she would be attracted to Caleb. But are these just aspects of the way Nathan sees the world/his creation, or is he actively working towards pushing that relationship, as he did by basing Ava's looks on caleb's porn profile?

Going back to the picture tearing scene, immediately after he tears the picture he returns to that awesome dance scene and gives Caleb (and the audience) the impression that he was hammered drunk. But he seems completely in control, speaking clearly when with Ava immediately before. So if this drunk scene was faked, or at the least staged, can we wonder if his entire drinking problem is a false character trait that he consciensly developed to make himself less appealing to Caleb, thereby increasing the chance he helps Ava?

Super long rant, I know. But this was the one thing stopping me from saying this was a strong movie of the year candidate. I just couldn't figure out exactly how much he was cheating at his own turning test, verses actually just being the version of himself he presented
Posted by Michael T. Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2004
8224 posts
Posted on 6/28/15 at 8:14 pm to
Has anyone posed the likelihood that we were watching Ava's sessions, not Nathan's sessions of Ava?
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
23279 posts
Posted on 6/28/15 at 8:40 pm to
I think Nathan screwed himself whenever he told Caleb he could have sex with Ava. At that point Caleb was determined to get Ava out of there.
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