re: Ex Machina is the best movie I’ve see in years SPOILERS

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Finally saw this. Wow, what an awesome, awesome movie. Not a bad thing to say, a few small plot holes, and I'd probably want a more definitive ending for Caleb, but those are minor gripes.

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Well...that's a short post, Freaux...

I never meant it as a big deal. It was just a thought I had

I finally saw this movie and

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We, the audience, get duped just like Caleb did.

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Uh no. I saw it coming almost from the start. I thought the movie was very predictable.

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ideas that keep you thinking long after the credits finish rolling.

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I can agree to this. As far as movies about AI go this one was one of the best, predictability aside.

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Uh no. I saw it coming almost from the start. I thought the movie was very

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Anyone could predict that ending. Everyone here is trying to blow their chests up saying they called it. I told my buddy before we even saw it that she was going to just manipulate him to get out. It's the execution of the narrative that is dynamite, and everyone holds out hope that she's genuine. In that way, we are duped.

Nathan alone was worth the admission

Alicia Vikander will be a star very soon. She's in talks to be in the new Bourne movie and Assassins Creed.

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Only my guy carson would stop wanting to sex a chick over her mainstream career decisions

She just went from an OT 12 to a would not bang

Her vagina is still pretentious bro. Dont give up on her yet

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Very early on, it was like I could predict so much yet I still felt the tension of not knowing how we were getting there. And the prediction didn't come with this feeling of "I called it!". It just kind of seemed so obvious, you just brushed it to the side quickly and stayed in the moment.

I loved Nathan man. It's refreshing to be around non-BS types(other than the whole lying to Caleb about who the test subject really was) like that in real life and its always a hoot for me to see them on screen.

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This!

I watched Ex Machina last night and enjoyed it. I finally got caught up with all the posts in this thread and I have no idea why the OP, Carson, has received so many down-votes. sheesh Unlike some OP's who just throw a topic out there, you made a valuable contribution to this thread. Thank you. Up-vote.

There has been a lot of good insight into the plot and characters shared but bottom line: I feel Ava failed the Turing Test due to lack of love/compassion which are significant seemingly illogical human traits that distinguish human beings from artificial intelligence. There is much more to truly successful AI than survival instincts and I think that was the overarching theme of the movie. The movie serves as a "be careful what you wish for" warning regarding the future of AI; you must might get it.

Ava was a product of here programming/input source from all cellphones, etc. per Nathan but she was also heavily influenced by her environment as others aptly pointed out. Nathan exhibited zero love/compassion in how he managed Ava and her predecessors and Ava responded in kind. She used Caleb as a tool taking advantage of his weakness, compassion, simply to achieve her goals, freedom and survival.

No doubt when most viewers saw Nathan's alcoholism and ill manner, a bad ending was predictable. Like others, I held out hope that Ava would exhibit truly human love/compassion but realistically it could have not ended any other way and remained consistent with the plot/the depicted environment.

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Nice post, daves. Lots of debates on lots of websites as to whether or not her leaving Caleb was a pass/fail, and I guess it comes down to the views of the individual.

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What it boils down to is: Do you consider love and compassion as important human traits necessary for AI to pass the Turing Test? There's no doubt in my mind that they are as important to human well being as they are to successful artificial intelligence.

As an aside, I find it interesting that the writers didn't include any safeguards into Ava's programming. For instance in, Bicentennial Man, the 3 laws of robotics prevented any harm to man by robots. But I can easily see the approach used by the writers as more open ended/flexible and given the controlled environment a safety net was built in which of course was circumvented by Ava using the gullible Caleb.

This was really the only part of the plot that lacked credibility and I do think it to some extent prevents the movie from being truly great. Nathan knew he had a drinking problem and was vulnerable during his binges. But I can rationalize that his god complex prevented him from installing safeguards to offset his vulnerability. And as others have mentioned, the use of security key-cards doesn't seem very sophisticated given the setting. But overall the movie was smartly produced.