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Do you blame Iceman for Goose's death?
Posted on 3/12/17 at 6:25 pm
Posted on 3/12/17 at 6:25 pm
I sure as hell do. He should've broke hard right way earlier.
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Posted on 3/12/17 at 6:29 pm to Breesus
I knew he was trouble when he kept clinching his jaw for no reason.
Posted on 3/12/17 at 7:06 pm to zeebo
Absolutely. He was too close for missles and could not target his gun effectively. Maverick had the better opportunity if he would have gotten out of the way.
This post was edited on 3/12/17 at 7:06 pm
Posted on 3/12/17 at 7:07 pm to Breesus
Goose was doomed. He was way too Beta for that position.
Posted on 3/12/17 at 7:27 pm to Breesus
I blame helmet design. It was avoidable fatality.
Posted on 3/12/17 at 7:37 pm to Breesus
Posted on 3/12/17 at 7:51 pm to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
It was a cover up by big aviation.
Posted on 3/12/17 at 8:43 pm to Breesus
I never fully got why Maverick blamed himself for Goose's death when he had a perfectly good scapegoat in Iceman. Ice and Maverick didn't get along, Ice was clearly maintaining his position because he didn't want Maverick to have the shot, and when Ice did pull out he didn't give Maverick enough room for maneuver and thus Maverick got caught in his jet wash.
If there is anyone to blame for the accident it is Iceman. And yet Maverick ignored his arch-rival's culpability and instead blamed himself.
If there is anyone to blame for the accident it is Iceman. And yet Maverick ignored his arch-rival's culpability and instead blamed himself.
Posted on 3/12/17 at 8:44 pm to Breesus
Actually don't you have to blame the ejection system failure and his canopy?
But...
Dr. Schallhorn said during his interview for the movie, he explained how a flat spin could actually happen with an F-14 and that it complicates ejection. "The aerodynamics of the F-14 flat spin affect the timing of the ejection sequence," Dr. Schallhorn said. "The canopy is jettisoned, followed by the ejection of the back seat, followed by the front seat. In a flat spin, the canopy, when it ejects, bobbles for an extra few hundredths of a second above the aircraft. That upsets the carefully engineered sequence because the guy in the back could then hit the canopy. That sequence made it into the movie."
So once Mav was in a flat-spin Goose was cooked unless Mav could have pulled out.
70-30 joint liability. Ice has 70.
Mav definitely has some. He was in control of the plane of Goose, flew "too close to the edge" to get them in that situation and maybe could have recovered the aircraft.
But...
Dr. Schallhorn said during his interview for the movie, he explained how a flat spin could actually happen with an F-14 and that it complicates ejection. "The aerodynamics of the F-14 flat spin affect the timing of the ejection sequence," Dr. Schallhorn said. "The canopy is jettisoned, followed by the ejection of the back seat, followed by the front seat. In a flat spin, the canopy, when it ejects, bobbles for an extra few hundredths of a second above the aircraft. That upsets the carefully engineered sequence because the guy in the back could then hit the canopy. That sequence made it into the movie."
So once Mav was in a flat-spin Goose was cooked unless Mav could have pulled out.
70-30 joint liability. Ice has 70.
Mav definitely has some. He was in control of the plane of Goose, flew "too close to the edge" to get them in that situation and maybe could have recovered the aircraft.
This post was edited on 3/12/17 at 8:47 pm
Posted on 3/13/17 at 12:36 am to Breesus
Yes
Posted on 3/13/17 at 6:27 am to zeebo
quote:
I knew he was trouble when he kept clinching his jaw for no reason.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 6:33 am to kywildcatfanone
They all deserve blame for the beach volleyball scene.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 6:43 am to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Actually that Meme is not correct for that scene..
Ice had already told him not to leave his wing man. Mav was responding at that point
I mean, it all honesty....
Ice had already told him not to leave his wing man. Mav was responding at that point
I mean, it all honesty....
This post was edited on 3/13/17 at 6:45 am
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:10 am to Dam Guide
quote:
They all deserve blame for the beach volleyball scene.
When you say blame Im assuming you mean praise correct? Love me some sweaty gay male interaction.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:43 am to Dam Guide
quote:
They all deserve blame for the beach volleyball scene.
Mrs. Midnight DGAF about anything in the movie other than that scene. SMDH
Posted on 3/13/17 at 12:22 pm to Breesus
yep, it was all a plan to get maverick off of his game because IceMan knew he couldn't beat him otherwise.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 12:29 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Someone make an "I'm out" gif with the goose ejection scene.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 2:14 pm to Breesus
Alleva could have handled this situation so much better.
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