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Decline In Movie Scores Over the Last Decade
Posted on 6/19/16 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 6/19/16 at 8:13 pm
What has happened to this industry? I can't remember one memorable theme in the Marvel films. The Dark Knight trilogy was nothing but a constant hum in the background. John Williams, Michael Giacchino, and Howard Shore are the last remaining composers that bring something to the table.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 8:19 pm to JabarkusRussell
I like The Avengers theme.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 8:23 pm to JabarkusRussell
How about Hans Zimmer? The Intersellar score is fantastic. He's had a lot of other great scores.
Also Ex Machina, whoever that was. It was definitely unique.
ETA: One more from Hans in the last 10 years is Time, from Inception.
Also Ex Machina, whoever that was. It was definitely unique.
ETA: One more from Hans in the last 10 years is Time, from Inception.
This post was edited on 6/19/16 at 8:25 pm
Posted on 6/19/16 at 8:26 pm to meeple
Inception, Interstellar, Sicario, there is pretty solid stuff out there
Posted on 6/19/16 at 8:44 pm to JabarkusRussell
I actually agree. The overall quality has dropped because of the new synth/ambient indie movement flooding the industry. It's cheaper and easier to put out a score than ever before.
The true composers don't compose at the rate they used to anymore either, usually they work the bigger budget films.
The true composers don't compose at the rate they used to anymore either, usually they work the bigger budget films.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 8:45 pm to meeple
Didn't Zimmer do Dark Knight? The guy who did BTTF is going to do a Marvel film at least.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 8:45 pm to Pettifogger
Inception is close to 8 years old. It used to be there were 5 solid scores every year.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 9:06 pm to theunknownknight
I really enjoyed the Misty Mountains / dwarf theme in the first Hobbit film. Didn't appear in the final two though :/
Posted on 6/19/16 at 9:09 pm to JabarkusRussell
Hans Zimmer has always been very hit and miss. I find his scores in The Dark Knight trilogy to be very inconsistent. Some tracks are good while others are mediocre. The same thing goes for his Interstellar soundtrack. Inception was his last good, wall-to-wall soundtrack. Before that...you probably have to go back to Gladiator.
Sadly the great instrumental composers are getting older and thus the quality of their work is declining. The last great, wall-to-wall soundtrack John Williams did was Episode III.
Sadly the great instrumental composers are getting older and thus the quality of their work is declining. The last great, wall-to-wall soundtrack John Williams did was Episode III.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 9:15 pm to RollTide1987
I've argued for years that an exceptional score can be almost as important as the best actor in a movie.
I can't imagine watching Lost without that score hammering home all relevant emotions.
The Mission is a depressing film without Morricone's uplifting score.
Poledouris' elevates Conan to heights only attained by Crom himself. Lonesome Dove also not too shabby.
I would say even in the past there were only a few greats but even those greats had misses along with the hits.
I can't imagine watching Lost without that score hammering home all relevant emotions.
The Mission is a depressing film without Morricone's uplifting score.
Poledouris' elevates Conan to heights only attained by Crom himself. Lonesome Dove also not too shabby.
I would say even in the past there were only a few greats but even those greats had misses along with the hits.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 9:19 pm to JabarkusRussell
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Didn't Zimmer do Dark Knight?
Yeah, Hans has had some very solid work.
Batman trilogy
Interstellar
Inception
Gladiator
The Lion King
Pirates of the Carribbean
Days of Thunder
Madagascar
Many more.
He's on tap for Dunkirk as well, Nolan's next masterpiece
Posted on 6/19/16 at 9:51 pm to TigerMyth36
Didn't the guy who did Titanic recently die? He was a good one. So was Jerry Goldsmith.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 10:19 pm to JabarkusRussell
There's no decline, you're just remembering the good scores from the past, and giving them too much weight.
Go back and watch some Arnold Schwarzenegger movies (other than T2), or other films like that. Technopop.
We usually get 1 or 2 memorable movie theme/scores a year.
Go back and watch some Arnold Schwarzenegger movies (other than T2), or other films like that. Technopop.
We usually get 1 or 2 memorable movie theme/scores a year.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 10:24 pm to Scoob
quote:
There's no decline, you're just remembering the good scores from the past, and giving them too much weight.
No I'm not. I buy scores to films I like. I haven't bought one since Shore's Hobbit soundtracks. Feast of Starlight was amazing. Someone mentioned the synthesizers taking over. I agree that that played a big part in the trash we now get.
This post was edited on 6/19/16 at 10:27 pm
Posted on 6/19/16 at 11:00 pm to JabarkusRussell
quote:
What has happened to this industry? I can't remember one memorable theme in the Marvel films. The Dark Knight trilogy was nothing but a constant hum in the background. John Williams, Michael Giacchino, and Howard Shore are the last remaining composers that bring something to the table.
Hans Zimmer is what happened. People in this thread want to praise him, and back in the Crimson Tide days he was quite good, but although his soundtracks add "mood" they aren't really that good. At all. Lately, he's been borderline terrible. And many, many composers followed right along. Everyone went synth, ambient noise right along with him. James Newton Howard, Jackman, etc.
Right now, the best classical composers are:
Giacchino
Desplat
Howard Shore - LOTR is clearly the best soundtrack of the past 20 years.
James Horner
Patrick Doyle - Thor and PotA are both kind of incredible
I like Beltrami, Tyler Bates and Harry Gregson-Williams, but they are still a little raw.
It was sad to see Goldsmith go. Silvestri isn't often iconic enough to carry the torch, but Goldsmith, Morricone and John Williams were the last truly great composers to work into the 2000s.
I don't like Zimmer and his acolytes they generally ruin film scoring and go for mood over character.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 11:00 pm to JabarkusRussell
quote:
What has happened to this industry? I can't remember one memorable theme in the Marvel films. The Dark Knight trilogy was nothing but a constant hum in the background. John Williams, Michael Giacchino, and Howard Shore are the last remaining composers that bring something to the table.
Hans Zimmer is what happened. People in this thread want to praise him, and back in the Crimson Tide days he was quite good, but although his soundtracks add "mood" they aren't really that good. At all. Lately, he's been borderline terrible. And many, many composers followed right along. Everyone went synth, ambient noise right along with him. James Newton Howard, Jackman, etc.
Right now, the best classical composers are:
Giacchino
Desplat
Howard Shore - LOTR is clearly the best soundtrack of the past 20 years.
James Horner
Patrick Doyle - Thor and PotA are both kind of incredible
I like Beltrami, Tyler Bates and Harry Gregson-Williams, but they are still a little raw.
It was sad to see Goldsmith go. Silvestri isn't often iconic enough to carry the torch, but Goldsmith, Morricone and John Williams were the last truly great composers to work into the 2000s.
I don't like Zimmer and his acolytes they generally ruin film scoring and go for mood over character.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 11:12 pm to TigerMyth36
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I can't imagine watching Lost without that score hammering home all relevant emotions.
Honestly Giachinnos' score is so good from that, he could put simply his score from that show alone and beat more composure's entire body of work.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 11:54 pm to JabarkusRussell
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John Williams,
And even his score for TFA was nothing memorable. The prequels had much better music.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 11:59 pm to TigerMyth36
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I've argued for years that an exceptional score can be almost as important as the best actor in a movie.
Sicario was this
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