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OFWHAP
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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS

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I hope he calls the Lannisters cocksuckers.



That would be the ultimate "jumping the shark" moment.


Finkle is Einhorn
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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
Aight time for a little crackpot. But first some ASOIAF did you know.

Did you know that Jeyne Westerling is Maggy the Frog's great grand daughter?

Jeyne's mother was a Spicer, who now inherited Castamere. House Spicer was founded by Maggy the Frog's son. Maggy, of course, cursed Cercei at a young age. And now the house her son founded is the lordship over a place that the Lannisters have an infamous (and badass I may add) song wrote for them. So what is the meaning of this connection?

I wrote all that to get to my point which is what does all this mean? Take off your tv show hat for a moment and disregard it. In the books Jeyne is most definitely still alive and I think she may play a role further in the story. GRRM has shown his displeasure with D&D killing off some characters that are still alive in the book series.

I fully believe Jeyne was a Lannister plant sent to foil young Robb Stark who fell for it hook line and sinker. Sybell and her brother it has been confirmed were conspiring with Tywin to trap Robb and deceive him. Grey Wind was very suspicious of Sybell and Rolph cause he growled at them everytime they came close to him.

In our search for answers to the many many questions we have remaining I can't help but wonder about Cercei's prophecy and how all this could tie together? Could Jeyne be the beautiful young queen from Cercei's prophecy? I think it is very possible and would tie all that up quite wonderfully. Thoughts?
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ladytiger118
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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
I knew about Maggy the Frog being her grandmother but I highly doubt she's the queen from Cersei's prophecy. IMO the Queen is Sansa, but many other thinks it could be Dany, Margaery, or even Arianne.


Finkle is Einhorn
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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
Do you think the Northmen proclaim Sansa the Queen in the North and back her in battle like they did with Rob? Or do you think she marries someone who take the Iron Throne? In other words how will she become a queen? I'm curious how any of those you mentioned would/could become queen
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ladytiger118
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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
I think OM has proposed the idea that Littlefinger, along with the support of the Vale and Riverlands lords, will crown Sansa as Queen in the North; she also has a claim to Harrenhal through her grandmother/Catelyn's mother Minisa Whent. And IMO the show has hinted at that in S4 when Lady Waynwood, Bronze Yohn Royce, and the other Vale Lord were told that Alayne is Sansa via Sansa. Plus that'll make the Harry the Heir marriage more plausible for the books and show...and we can surmise that Littlefinger has already told Lady Waynwood about Alayne's true identity as of AFFC. Just my opinion/hunch.

I think she could also end up marrying someone who takes the Iron Throne...but I don't see her marrying Faegon. I think Arianne will marry him once her initial meeting with him in Storm's End is complete. Plus Martin said recently in an interview that there will be more weddings in TWoW, the keyword being 'weddings'. I don't think the wedding with Sansa and Harrold will go through but it's most likely that Aegon will marry Arianne.

ETA: Kristian Nairn (Hodor's) Rave of Thrones DJ Tour
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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
I think Sansa at least becomes the Lady of Winterfell. I just think that Martin has sort of always ostracized her from the Stark lineage- she looks more Tully, her wolf dies, she wants to leave Winterfell. But it is she that remembers Winterfell in intimate detail. And she finds herself and her strength in rebuilding it. I have always found it interesting that Arya never thinks of Winterfell really on her journeys. Sure as a goal to get back to family, but never the place. Really only Jon, Bran. and Sansa dream of Winterfell.

However, while I think Jeyne might play a role in later books, I don't think she is "the Queen." Martin loves connecting characters constantly. It fills out the story more. In this case, I think what one is supposed to take away from that lineage is that Maggy the Frog was a maegi from the East and that her prophecy is linked to blood magic, which always asks a price.


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ffishstik
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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
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Did you know that Jeyne Westerling is Maggy the Frog's great grand daughter?


That I knew. Also, on the reread it was so blatantly obvious that Tywin and Jeyne's mother set the whole thing up to bring down Robb. I felt like an idiot for having missed about half of it the first time around. Jaime is aware of it as well, or at least he puzzles it out, and Martin makes it a point to show how loyal Jeyne still is to Robb. I don't think that she is the queen in the prophecy, but I like the Crackpot.


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OMLandshark
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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
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I think she could also end up marrying someone who takes the Iron Throne...but I don't see her marrying Faegon. I think Arianne will marry him once her initial meeting with him in Storm's End is complete. Plus Martin said recently in an interview that there will be more weddings in TWoW, the keyword being 'weddings'. I don't think the wedding with Sansa and Harrold will go through but it's most likely that Aegon will marry Arianne.



I agree with you, but I don't think Lemoncakes wants to go anywhere near King's Landing for the rest of her days. I think in title she'll be "The Queen in the North" in the next book, but they'll be oblivious to what is really going on in the North other than the fall of the Boltons.


ladytiger118
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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
Agreed. I don't see Sansa being Queen of Westeros. I think she's more in touch with her Northern roots out of all the Starks (except Bran and I don't count Jon as a Stark).


ladytiger118
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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
Directors for S5 confirmed:
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Episodes 501 and 502: Michael Slovis
Episodes 503 and 504: Mark Mylod
Episodes 505 and 506: Jeremy Podeswa
Episodes 507 and 508: Miguel Sapochnik
Episodes 509 and 510: David Nutter


Wow...are all of them new?


Cosmo
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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
Wish they could get Michael Bay to do one.


Mr. Wayne
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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
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Wish they could get Michael Bay to do one


Dani w/ Drogon at the Fighting Pits gets my vote. Would be incredible


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ladytiger118
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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
Would it be nonstop explosions then?


Cosmo
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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
Yep, wildfire everywhere and the dragons are actually transformers.

Megan Fox as a Sand Snake.
Shia laboeuf as Darkstar.


Mr. Wayne
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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
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Shia laboeuf as Darkstar.


He actually would make a decent Qeuntyn Martell

Though the fact that the character is dragonfired to death might be having a small impact on my judgement...
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ladytiger118
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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
Shia LaBeouf sucks. Only time I liked him in a role was as Louis Stevens.


Cosmo
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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
Ren Stevens

She needed a nose job tho


ladytiger118
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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
I think Ren had a boob job IRL.


Cosmo
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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
Off to google i go


ladytiger118
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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
FWIW they look really fake.


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