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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS

Posted on 7/30/13 at 11:34 pm to
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 7/30/13 at 11:34 pm to
Victarion is an idiot.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 7/30/13 at 11:42 pm to
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Victarion is an idiot.



Aside from maybe Joffrey, I'd say he's probably the dumbest person in the series, with his brother not far behind.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 12:18 am to
The ironborn in general are idiots. Probably 1 step above a wildling as far as intelligence goes. They only care about raping and plundering.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 9:18 am to
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The ironborn in general are idiots. Probably 1 step above a wildling as far as intelligence goes. They only care about raping and plundering.



You're selling the Wildings short. I can't think of many incredibly idiotic things they've done. I don't know where to start with stupid shite I've heard from the Ironborn.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 9:20 am to
Balon's plan to conquer and keep hold of the North was akin to a dog shitting in the hallway and waiting for someone to pick it up.
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 10:31 am to
Yeah, the Ironborn are so stupid. They remind me of a bunch of pirates...surprised that Jack Sparrow hasn't turned up with those idiots. Several POV characters have already said that the Ironborn have no loyalty and no organization, so losing Balon's Rebellion was really no surprise.

The Wildlings aren't dumb persay, they're just more in tune with nature/spirits like Native Americans. They're not modern like those who live south of the Wall but they're certainly not as stupid as the Ironborn.
This post was edited on 7/31/13 at 10:35 am
Posted by TigerintheNO
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 10:59 am to
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, I'd say he's probably the dumbest person in the series, with his brother not far behind.


Edmure Tully has to be in that group as well
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 11:08 am to
I thought Robb and Blackfish not actually giving him clear instructions was pretty fricking stupid.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 11:19 am to
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Victarion is an idiot


yet is still one of the biggest bamf's in the series. You shut your whore mouth when talking about Vic
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 11:34 am to
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Edmure Tully has to be in that group as well


Edmure gets a raw deal by the fan base. I don't see why he's particularly dumb. He's just not a battle commander.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 11:48 am to
Reminds me of a young Mace Tyrell
Posted by TigerintheNO
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 12:05 pm to
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I don't see why he's particularly dumb


He doesn't realize that Lord Frey was going to kill him as soon as he got his wife pregnant.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 12:14 pm to
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He doesn't realize that Lord Frey was going to kill him as soon as he got his wife pregnant.


Well, he knocked her up on the night of the Red Wedding and didn't hear shite, so it was a bit late for that.
Posted by TigerintheNO
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 12:29 pm to
should have said male child
Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 1:26 pm to
Robb was dumb in the sense that he couldn't keep it in his pants/keep his promise.

Edmure would be a run of the mill lord in peacetime but bad during wartime.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 1:28 pm to
Edmure is the anti Randyll Tarly.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 1:32 pm to
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Edmure is the anti Randyll Tarly.


That's how I think of him as well. Then again I think Jaime is the Anti-Ned Stark.
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 1:33 pm to
Yeah, exactly . Randyl is a badass. It makes me wonder why the Tarly household never outdid the Tyrells though/take their power.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 1:33 pm to
Jaime is closer to Ned than any other character by the end of AFFC.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 1:35 pm to
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It makes me wonder why the Tarly household never outdid the Tyrells though/take their power.


Who says they won't? I've always seen Randyll as the Roose of the south.

The epilogue of ADWD where he makes it a point to downplay Aegon/Connington always stuck out to me. Remember, the only commander to win a battle for Aerys during the rebellion was Randyll. The Golden Company made mention of friends in the Reach and he may be the one.
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