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Posted on 4/10/13 at 9:24 am to
Posted by Gugich22
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 9:24 am to
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Ned told Jon Snow he would tell him the truth about his mother the next time he saw him. Jon Snow is probably in a coma at this point and is visited by Ned who reveals the truth about his mother and father Lyanna and Rhaegar. Ned may also explain how Lyanna and Rhaegar were secretly married and Jon is in fact, not a bastard. I realizes Rhaegar would have been married to Elia also at this time but whatever. Ned explains how he had to keep it secret because Robert Baratheon would have surely killed him if anyone knew his true identity.


I could see this but I still think Bran is going to be involved in this somehow...
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 9:53 am to
Yeah or Catelyn or both
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 9:55 am to
I'm not saying how Catelyn would find out? She certainly doesn't know as of now
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 10:03 am to
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I'm not saying how Catelyn would find out? She certainly doesn't know as of now


Who does Catelyn and BwB end up killing?
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 10:38 am to
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I'm not saying how Catelyn would find out?

Right but we know about her issues with Jon.

Where are her last known whereabouts?

Leading the Brotherhood somewhere around the forests of the Neck hunting the Freys.

What else is in the Neck?

Greywater Watch.



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Greywater Watch is the seat of House Reed.It is roughly located in the swamps of the Neck, southwest of Moat Cailin. It is built upon one of the strange floating islands of the swamps, making it impossible to find for ravens and thus there is no maester there, also there are no knights or master-at-arms here.

Several armies of the River Kings and later the Freys have attempted to conquer Greywater, but none of them could find it.


And who would be at Greywater Watch?

Why Howland Reed of course, the only living person who knows what happened at the Tower of Joy and be able to confirm if Jon is indeed the son of Rhaegar and Lyanna.

Catelyn learns of Jon's identity this way and fraught with guilt over her contempt for Jon, she sets out to reveal to him his true identity.

Who better and more credible to break the news to Jon Snow than Catelyn?




Posted by manwich
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 10:40 am to
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Greywater Watch.
must know more
Posted by Tiger1242
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 10:41 am to
And why do you think Catelyn can find it although armies cannot?
Posted by manwich
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 10:43 am to
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 10:44 am to
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And why do you think Catelyn can find it although armies cannot?


Because she can "see" stuff now that she has been influenced by magic.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 10:49 am to
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And why do you think Catelyn can find it although armies cannot?

That's exactly why she finds it.

The Brotherhood probably already knows where it is anyway.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 10:55 am to
Posted by pistolsfiring11
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 10:56 am to
So I just started my first re-read of the series and I don't see how Jon isn't the son of Rhaegar and Lyanna. If he's not, I'm just gonna assume that Martin got pissed people figured it out and changed it to spite us.

The more I re-read, the more convinced I am that R+L has to =J.
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 11:01 am to
New characters for season 3

I find it interesting Thoros meeting up with Melisandre this season.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 11:17 am to
I would trade both Tullys and the warg for Belwas.

I guess he may come next season.
Posted by ColaTiger
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 11:20 am to
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I would trade both Tullys and the warg for Belwas.

I guess he may come next season.


Legit question:

Is he truly necessary for the TV show? I mean he's a great character in the books but what does he add that is truly essential?
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 11:20 am to
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I guess he may come next season.


Martin says no Belwas

LINK
Posted by DestrehanTiger
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 11:22 am to
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Is he truly necessary for the TV show? I mean he's a great character in the books but what does he add that is truly essential?


I think I agree. His two biggest moments were killing the Champion of one of the Slaver Cities (which one that is is slipping my mind) then he eats the honeyed locusts and gets violently sick.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 11:23 am to
The fight scene outside the gates of Mereen would have been worth it.

However, they deviated enough from the book to make him irrelevant in the show.
Posted by ColaTiger
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 11:29 am to
The show already has a ton of characters and seem to be introducing more each day. And they haven't even gotten to the Martells or Greyjoys, yet. I don't know how they are going to go about this show after Season 4.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 11:30 am to
I've read a theory on Westeros that she will end up bringing Gendry back to Dragonstone. He will replace Edric Storm in the books.
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