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Cartel Land (2015) -- SPOILERY QUESTIONS INSIDE

Posted on 5/23/16 at 11:52 am
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 5/23/16 at 11:52 am
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First off, what a great documentary by Michael Hieneman about the Mexican Drug War.

Second, I have a question for those that have seen it:

***SPOILERS***












Who was corrupt in this deal in Michoacan, Mexico? Dr. Mireles was purported to be very pure and just in the beginning, then the documentary begins to reveal some of his organization's flaws as well as his own personal flas near the end.

Then things starting turning after his plane crash and appointing Papa Smurf as the temporary voice of the Autodefensas movement. Was Papa Smurf secretly accepting meth from the cooks to fund the Autodefensas or had meth and other drug monies always been the source by which they can arm their volunteers?

It was a very interesting and sometimes gratifying documentary. It's especially gratifying seeing some of the cartel getting their just rewards. Can you imagine what it must be like to live in an environment like this?
This post was edited on 5/23/16 at 11:53 am
Posted by Uncle Stu
#AlbinoLivesMatter
Member since Aug 2004
33658 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 11:54 am to
quote:

Who was corrupt in this deal in Michoacan, Mexico?

I dont think one single soul is innocent in that dynamic

it's Hamsterdam IRL

power corrupts

This post was edited on 5/23/16 at 12:03 pm
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89498 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:32 pm to
I really wanted to believe that Mireles was a good man. He might still be, but his character and organization became more and more tarnished as the show went on...drastically so. That was great storytelling, I guess. He's now in jail.
Posted by CapperVin
Member since Apr 2013
10531 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:38 pm to
I still can't get over how hot the doctors mistress is.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37232 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 1:27 pm to
Necro'd.

Just watched this. Great doc. This and The Infiltrator in one weekend, quite the view into the drug war.

quote:

Then things starting turning after his plane crash and appointing Papa Smurf as the temporary voice of the Autodefensas movement. Was Papa Smurf secretly accepting meth from the cooks to fund the Autodefensas or had meth and other drug monies always been the source by which they can arm their volunteers?


I think, like a lot of things, things started out with the right purpose and Papa Smurf went south/was bribed at some point. Power corrupts.


On the note of his mistress...

That whole thing was odd. I'm going out on a limb to say she was hired in some sense to bring the whole thing down. May not have been a prostitute, but even in the scene in the truck - she looked uncomfortable. She was way out of place with everything. I have 0 proof, just a hunch.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
27642 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 3:18 pm to
Damn. I've never heard of this

I'm obsessed with Narcos and whole Pablo sega. I'm guessing I will like this?
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37232 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 4:16 pm to
It's less about the business and more about the people caught in the middle - Particularly Mexican Rural villages and the US Border towns.
Posted by Azazello
Member since Sep 2011
3181 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 4:37 pm to
Highly recommend the book "El Narco" if you're interested in the Mexican cartels
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