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re: Breaking Bad S5E11 8/25 "Confessions" Episode Talk STARTS On PG. 7

Posted on 8/25/13 at 11:05 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 8/25/13 at 11:05 pm to
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The latter confession was Breaking Bad at its best. In Season 4, Walt tricked Jesse into thinking that meth kingpin Guatavo Fring (Giancarlo Esposito) had poisoned his girlfriend's son Brock by having Saul's bodyguard swipe a ricin-laced cigarette from Jesse's pocket, when really it was Walt who dosed the boy; on Sunday, the bodyguard repeated the maneuver with Jesse's pot and Jesse suddenly realized how Walt had deceived him. The epiphany, which Saul confirmed, triggered a crescendo of rage from Jesse, who'd spent the previous two episodes in a coma of despair, and set in motion a plotline that I've always suspected would dominate the denouement of the series: Walt vs. Jesse, father vs. son, the fallen vs. the redeemed.



for anyoen else who doesnt remember shite from years ago
Posted by ike221
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Posted on 8/25/13 at 11:07 pm to
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I guess Walt intended to poison Brock with it, but realized it was too easy to trace back to him


That was all part of the plan

Never intended to kill. He just had to make it look like poison with LOTV

It was just a manipulative story

Jesse is pissed now because Walt and Saul have been manipulating Jesse for some time. For their own personal gain.

Jesse has been tired of sells pitches for quite some time

The missing weed sparked a thought that Huel lifted it from him

Just as he suspected Walt have Huel do in 4.11, when he confronted Walt with a Gun to his head

In season 5 Jesse mysteriously find the ricin cigarette with Walts aide in the autobot vacuum cleaner

Jesse hates the fact that Walt is always fricking with him and his loved ones for his personal gain. He realizes he will do whatever for himself.

Jesse isn't pissed that Walt poisoned Brock with LOTV

Moreso that he fell and has always fallen for Walts lies, when Walt could give two shits about him. At least that's how it appears

I think Walt really loves him like a son, but things are just so screwed right now
Posted by ike221
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Posted on 8/25/13 at 11:12 pm to
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i dont understand what Jesse mad about.

he was screaming and it was hard to understand. I rewinded it like 3 times

they took his weed, and put the cigarettes in his pocket. Then he looked at the cigs and didnt get in the van. Why?


He's just mad that he knew the truth about Walt and was able to be pulled back in to Walts game and believe him

That's what I gather
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 8/25/13 at 11:14 pm to
yeah i know now Ike. You've been no help!
Posted by ike221
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Posted on 8/25/13 at 11:17 pm to
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Lester Earl


Well shite bro.

Just trying to help
Posted by THRILLHO
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Posted on 8/25/13 at 11:17 pm to
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but why the gasoline cliffhanger when we all know the house doesn't burn down?


Jesse pouring gasoline wasn't the cliffhanger. His retaliating against Walt, being super pissed, and carrying a gun is the cliffhanger. It also answers questions as to why "Heisenberg" was written on the wall in the beginning of the second half of the season (many speculated that kids may have written it, implying that Walt's identity is publicly known).
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 8/25/13 at 11:19 pm to
So you think Jesse writes it?
Posted by ike221
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Posted on 8/25/13 at 11:22 pm to
I don't see how he writes it he's going to torch the house

Somebody stops him from torching the place

He's not going to then stop, get a bucket of yellow paint, and a brush and paint out Heisenburg

For what gain? Hank knows Walt is Heisenburg. Hank admits to Jesse he knows about Walt

Walts empire falls. He disappears. Publicly known he's Heisenburg. The writing will soon enough be on the wall.
This post was edited on 8/25/13 at 11:26 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 8/25/13 at 11:24 pm to
ike, can i ask you to chill for a minute?
Posted by LateArrivalforLSU
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Posted on 8/25/13 at 11:25 pm to
HO LEE frick

Just now watching it. The video.

HO LEE frick.

This show is fanfrickingtastic.
Posted by ike221
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Posted on 8/25/13 at 11:26 pm to
Sure

Posted by THRILLHO
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Posted on 8/25/13 at 11:27 pm to
Looks like it. I'd have to re-watch the first episode, but I think the house may have been missing a lot of carpet. Jesse setting a smallish fire to the carpet in the center of the room, leaving the front door open so that neighbors see the smoke/fire, and writing Heisenberg on the wall would certainly draw some attention. Remember, Jesse told Walt that it appears as if Hank is the only one that knows what's going on and that he hasn't told the rest of the DEA. Having a drug kingpin's name written at the scene of a crime that happens to take place at the brother in law of a DEA higher up will be big, and I'm thinking Gomez is going to be asking Hank some questions about it.
Posted by eyeran
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/25/13 at 11:27 pm to
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Jesse pouring gasoline wasn't the cliffhanger. His retaliating against Walt, being super pissed, and carrying a gun is the cliffhanger. It also answers questions as to why "Heisenberg" was written on the wall in the beginning of the second half of the season (many speculated that kids may have written it, implying that Walt's identity is publicly known).
That doesn't explain why the neighbor freaked out though. Something happens concerning Walt that becomes public knowledge
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
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Posted on 8/25/13 at 11:28 pm to
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Hank knows Walt is Heisenburg.


Again, that's true, but he sees Hank hasn't told anyone yet, and may suspect that Walt has something on him keeping him quiet.
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
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Posted on 8/25/13 at 11:30 pm to
Yeah, I guess Jesse writing it would likely lead to it becoming public knowledge anyway.
Posted by lilbadness
Texas
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Posted on 8/25/13 at 11:36 pm to
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That doesn't explain why the neighbor freaked out though. Something happens concerning Walt that becomes public knowledge


I have a feeling Walt is going to fake his own death
Posted by ike221
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Posted on 8/25/13 at 11:40 pm to
Anybody feel Hank followed Jesse to Walts house?
Posted by eyeran
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Posted on 8/25/13 at 11:43 pm to
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I have a feeling Walt is going to fake his own death
I kind of feel like that too. It would fit in with the confession tape and might explain the name he was using in the flash forward. Maybe the family uses Saul's guy

Its probably something none of us saw coming though. Like the confession
Posted by ike221
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Posted on 8/25/13 at 11:47 pm to
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I kind of feel like that too. It would fit in with the confession tape and might explain the name he was using in the flash forward. Maybe the family uses Saul's guy

Its probably something none of us saw coming though. Like the confession


Name as in Lambert? Skys maiden name

Holly and Jr. Breakfast disappear also?
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 8/25/13 at 11:55 pm to
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That spider is bad news for Jesse


Todd is the spider, Jesse is the fly. I bet Walt gets Todd to kill Jesse.
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