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re: Ben Affleck is the new Batman

Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:49 pm to
Posted by Archie Bengal Bunker
Member since Jun 2008
15520 posts
Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:49 pm to
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The guy is a solid actor.


What are some roles you really liked him in (besides Hollywoodland, which you named)?

Only non-Boston role I liked him in was Argo, and then he was just satisfactory. PLUS, I didn't think "Ben Affleck" the entire time he was on screen in Argo because of his hair and beard (which might work with a Bat costume).

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He also has the imposing size to match Cavill, and he's got a good mug for the cowl.


This I might can agree with, but when the cowl is off = Ben Affleck.

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We should all be more worried about the forced nature of the DC Universe, the terrible premise, and the fact that this could never work on film given MoS.


Well, this is a problem unto itself. This feels forced, but adding in, what I am sure the studio feels is a known quantity/ superstar/ lead man/ whatever, does not help the situation.


I think they hit a homerun with Cavill, but then it seems like they were trying to find an established person to put along side him in the next film to sell tickets, which speaks to the rushed issue.


I hated Hathaway as catwoman, but she was the best part of that movie. So, I will wait until at least a trailer before shitting on this film.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37239 posts
Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:49 pm to
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I'd also add Iron Man 2 and 3 to that category:

Iron Man - A-
The Incredible Hulk - D
Iron Man 2 - C-
Thor - B
Captain America - B-
The Avengers - B+
Iron Man 3 - C-


So that's about an average of C plus...better than average.

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Oh, please.


It seems to be true of those who talk down about Marvel's films, which are all fairly cheesy, respectful of their source material and more about good guys versus bad guys (fun entertainment, above average films) and at the same time praise Nolan's films despite their vast flaws, particularly TDKR.

You know it to be true Captain America > Dark Knight Rises. Fact.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:50 pm to
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People can't shite on Daredevil without seeing the Director's Cut. Sorry. That movie was shredded in post-production. The real version is actually fairly good.



I don't really hate Daredevil either, but come on, Daredevil playing Batman.
Posted by DURANTULA
Member since Jun 2013
1885 posts
Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:51 pm to
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It is kinda interesting that this comes several days after the rumor of Warner Bros offering Bale 50 million for one more go as Bruce.


You mean the offer that never happened?
Posted by Archie Bengal Bunker
Member since Jun 2008
15520 posts
Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:52 pm to
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OMLandshark


Would you take Bale over Ben?
Posted by F machine
Member since Jun 2009
11886 posts
Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:54 pm to
you mean like human torch playing cap? that worked out ok.

some of you need to realize this movie is two years from being released and all we know are the two leads and the director. we don't know the story or the villain or anything. I'm not saying it wont suck. it might be terrible but I'll wait before I pass too much judgment.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64945 posts
Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:54 pm to
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It seems to be true of those who talk down about Marvel's films, which are all fairly cheesy, respectful of their source material and more about good guys versus bad guys (fun entertainment, above average films) and at the same time praise Nolan's films despite their vast flaws, particularly TDKR.



I like good film and know a good movie when I see one. I liked X1 and X2 a lot and thought Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2 were two of the most influential comic book films to come along in a generation, despite both of them showing their age 10 years later. I am also in the minority in that I liked X-Men Origins: Wolverine. I thought that was a great action movie. I am also a big fan of X-Men: First Class - a movie I believe to be superior to any of the Avengers Initiative films.

Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
67302 posts
Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:55 pm to
Flame boy from FF4 plays Cap...

Just saying. People are quick to forget.

Storm plays Catwoman...

Just saying...
This post was edited on 8/22/13 at 10:56 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64945 posts
Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:55 pm to
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I don't really hate Daredevil either, but come on, Daredevil playing Batman.



Kind of reminds me of Chris Evans (Human Torch from the god awful Fantastic Four movies) being cast to play Captain America.

Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:56 pm to
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Would you take Bale over Ben?



No, but that still doesn't make Affleck the right choice.
Posted by DURANTULA
Member since Jun 2013
1885 posts
Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:56 pm to
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DC on the other hand was on a hot streak of horrible films. Brand recognition only takes you so far.


Do what now?

You seemed terribly misinformed. Wouldn't be a problem though if you weren't talking like you knew everything.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:57 pm to
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Storm plays Catwoman...

Just saying...



And both are incredibly miscast.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64945 posts
Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:57 pm to
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some of you need to realize this movie is two years from being released and all we know are the two leads and the director. we don't know the story or the villain or anything. I'm not saying it wont suck. it might be terrible but I'll wait before I pass too much judgment.



This is my mantra as well.

Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:57 pm to
Oh great, Captain Twat is here.

Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52743 posts
Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:57 pm to
Either way, it's a grown man dressing as a bat. Are people really like "OMG I'm totes not going to take the character with cute bat ears and a cape seriously if it's so and so actor."
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37239 posts
Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:58 pm to
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What are some roles you really liked him in (besides Hollywoodland, which you named)?

Only non-Boston role I liked him in was Argo, and then he was just satisfactory. PLUS, I didn't think "Ben Affleck" the entire time he was on screen in Argo because of his hair and beard (which might work with a Bat costume).


Ok when I say solid actor, I don't mean he's a chameleon. He does what he does well, although it is a narrow range of characters. Thankfully, Bruce Wayne would fit comfortably within that spectrum. So it's a good choice. Most of all, outside of Gigli, Affleck's eye for scripts is pretty good.

In terms of performances I liked:
Argo
Hollywoodland
The Town
Boiler Room
Chasing Amy
The Company Men (Probably closest to part of the Bruce Wayne range)
Jersey Girl
Changing Lanes (terrible movie, solid performance)

And Runner Runner looks quite good.
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This I might can agree with, but when the cowl is off = Ben Affleck.


Like I said, I understand this sentiment. It doesn't bother me with Affleck. I always see Johnny Depp though. He sucks as an actor relative to his perceived value. I never see anyone but him. Oh well.

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Well, this is a problem unto itself. This feels forced, but adding in, what I am sure the studio feels is a known quantity/ superstar/ lead man/ whatever, does not help the situation.


I think they hit a homerun with Cavill, but then it seems like they were trying to find an established person to put along side him in the next film to sell tickets, which speaks to the rushed issue.


I hated Hathaway as catwoman, but she was the best part of that movie. So, I will wait until at least a trailer before shitting on this film.


Like I said, it's been all bad news to me, this is the first bright spot I've seen in terms of this film. Everything else screams "FORCED."
Posted by DURANTULA
Member since Jun 2013
1885 posts
Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:58 pm to
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What I am saying is that DC and Warner Bros are chasing their "The Avengers" and instead of letting the DC cinematic universe develop, they are shooting for the moon and forcing the crossover.


So you are saying that there is only one way to do something (your way), and if a studio head does it any other way, it's automatically the wrong way.

You and people like you are what's wrong with the public's perception of the motion picture industry.
Posted by F machine
Member since Jun 2009
11886 posts
Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:59 pm to
go back to trolling msb and gtfo of here. if you don't like superheroes and such you have no reason to be here.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37239 posts
Posted on 8/22/13 at 11:00 pm to
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I like good film and know a good movie when I see one. I liked X1 and X2 a lot and thought Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2 were two of the most influential comic book films to come along in a generation, despite both of them showing their age 10 years later. I am also in the minority in that I liked X-Men Origins: Wolverine. I thought that was a great action movie. I am also a big fan of X-Men: First Class - a movie I believe to be superior to any of the Avengers Initiative films.



Admit it, you just hate the Avengers hype and the fact that it trounced TDKR in the theaters.

It's ok. We are here to help.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
29122 posts
Posted on 8/22/13 at 11:00 pm to
no matter what i think people were gonna be pretty meh about this casting.

this batman is following a beloved trilogy. would be tough sledding as far as public opinion goes no matter what.
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