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re: Ben Affleck is the new Batman
Posted on 8/22/13 at 9:16 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 8/22/13 at 9:16 pm to RollTide1987
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And this proves they can't be in the same universe....how?
I think letting the DC universe evolve over time on film like Marvel has done, is better than just slapping the two DC icons in one film together never having let that scenario develop over time, it's not very smart, but I am not in the business.
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 9:18 pm to The Egg
Posted on 8/22/13 at 9:18 pm to The Egg
They should go really old and just re-cast Adam West.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 9:19 pm to Fun Bunch
I'm ok with this. Ben Affleck gets a bad rap because he sold out and did tons of crappy rom-coms and terrible movies (Daredevil), but I feel like he is an actor who when given good source material can actually do ok.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 9:20 pm to Tactical1
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I think letting the DC universe evolve over time on film like Marvel has done, is better than just slapping the two DC icons in one film together never having let that scenario develop over time, it's not very smart, but I am not in the business.
Marvel HAD to do it that way though because almost no one outside of the world of comic book readers had heard of characters like Iron Man, Thor, Hawkeye, Nick Fury, and Black Widow before. DC has the advantage of having some of the most recognizable characters in the history of comic books: Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Green Arrow, The Flash, etc.
We don't need another standalone Batman movie for a while and it's very unlikely that a standalone Wonder Woman or Flash movie would do enough business to be worth it. So why not just go ahead and put your two most popular and iconic characters in a movie together and introduce the others in a Justice League movie somewhere on down the line?
This post was edited on 8/22/13 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 8/22/13 at 9:21 pm to RollTide1987
quote:LOL
You apparently weren't at the panel in San Diego when this movie was officially announced.
No. Sorry I didn't make it to the panel is San Diego
And people being excited about the movie happening doesn't mean they were clamoring for it
Posted on 8/22/13 at 9:23 pm to ladytiger118
I actually don't think Affleck would be that bad from strictly an acting standpoint. I just think he might be too distracting.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 9:26 pm to RollTide1987
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Marvel HAD to do it that way though because almost no one outside of the world of comic book readers had heard of characters like Iron Man, Thor, Hawkeye, Nick Fury, and Black Widow before. DC has the advantage of having some of the most recognizable characters in the history of comic books: Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Green Arrow, The Flash, etc.
Marvel didn't setup who these characters are, they setup the scenario of their partnership, people knew who these characters were.
DC on the other hand was on a hot streak of horrible films. Brand recognition only takes you so far.
This post was edited on 8/22/13 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 8/22/13 at 9:27 pm to eyeran
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No. Sorry I didn't make it to the panel is San Diego
I didn't either. I just saw the cell phone videos and read the reports.
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And people being excited about the movie happening doesn't mean they were clamoring for it
Comic book nerds have been clamoring for it since the project was first brought up after the success of Batman '89. It almost happened after Batman Returns but was delayed due to Reeve's accident. And it almost happened again after the disaster that was Batman & Robin but was put on hold again when Nolan became attached to the project in 2003.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 9:32 pm to The Egg
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Ben Affleck is the new Batman
I personally don't love it, but take his physique from from The Town mixed with the brooding guy from Argo...I think it's gonna work. It's an interesting choice.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 9:33 pm to Tactical1
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Marvel didn't setup who these characters are, they setup the scenario of their partnership
And you are under the assumption that DC has to set up a scenario using a similar model. They do not.
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DC on the other hand was on a hot streak of horrible films.
I wouldn't call the bomb that was Green Lantern a "hot streak." Besides that film, and to a lesser extent Superman Returns, DC has done a pretty good job as far as quality goes. Besides The Avengers and Iron Man, the reception of the other Marvel films have been pretty average.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 9:34 pm to RollTide1987
With Matt Damon as Robin
Posted on 8/22/13 at 9:36 pm to RollTide1987
I'm talking about the characters in question.
Superman III, Superman IV, Batman Forever, Batman and Robin. This was not a very good run for these characters.
This Batman Superman film can only hope to be, okay.
Superman III, Superman IV, Batman Forever, Batman and Robin. This was not a very good run for these characters.
This Batman Superman film can only hope to be, okay.
This post was edited on 8/22/13 at 9:40 pm
Posted on 8/22/13 at 9:39 pm to Tactical1
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This Batman Superman film can only hope to be, okay.
What do you base this assumption on? The fact that Superman III, Superman IV, and Batman & Robin were horrible movies?
Posted on 8/22/13 at 9:42 pm to RollTide1987
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What do you base this assumption on? The fact that Superman III, Superman IV, and Batman & Robin were horrible movies?
What I am saying is that DC and Warner Bros are chasing their "The Avengers" and instead of letting the DC cinematic universe develop, they are shooting for the moon and forcing the crossover.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 9:44 pm to The Egg
And once again, DC/WB becomes the laughing stock of comic book movies! Nolan was obviously a fricking diamond in the rough.
What will these hacks frick up next? A cup of coffee?
What will these hacks frick up next? A cup of coffee?
Posted on 8/22/13 at 9:46 pm to Tactical1
What makes this even worse is that this is the Man of Steel sequel.
Batman and the actor who is portraying him, has now become the big news....... Of the Man of Steel sequel.
Batman and the actor who is portraying him, has now become the big news....... Of the Man of Steel sequel.
This post was edited on 8/22/13 at 9:47 pm
Posted on 8/22/13 at 9:47 pm to Tactical1
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I think people need to be more concerned that Warner Bros is trying to force this crossover more than who is donning the cape and cowl.
I agree. It seems entirely rushed. I was hoping for a good progression of the Superman storyline before we got to a crossover movie. Don't get me wrong, I've been waiting for a Batman-Superman movie my whole life, but they've done it at the expense of the MoS story arch.
And this casting of Affleck is pretty terrible.
This post was edited on 8/22/13 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 8/22/13 at 9:49 pm to FairhopeTider
WB doesn't know what the frick they're doing. This is getting fricking ridiculous.
I bet Nolan is loading up a shotgun right now.
I bet Nolan is loading up a shotgun right now.
This post was edited on 8/22/13 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 8/22/13 at 9:51 pm to Tactical1
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What I am saying is that DC and Warner Bros are chasing their "The Avengers" and instead of letting the DC cinematic universe develop, they are shooting for the moon and forcing the crossover.
But there is more than one way to develop a cinematic universe. Marvel just happened to invent the process.
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Batman and the actor who is portraying him, has now become the big news....... Of the Man of Steel sequel.
And when the villain is announced that will become the big news of the Man of Steel sequel. The same thing happened when Heath Ledger was cast as the Joker in The Dark Knight and when Anne Hathaway was cast as Catwoman in The Dark Knight Rises.
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