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Amanda Knox Netflix Documentary (possible spoilers)
Posted on 9/30/16 at 6:52 pm
Posted on 9/30/16 at 6:52 pm
Anyone watched it yet? Thoughts?
Posted on 9/30/16 at 8:52 pm to AlbertMeansWell
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(possible spoilers)
really?
Posted on 10/2/16 at 11:28 pm to AlbertMeansWell
I just finished it... kinda lame tbh. Don't know what else to say about it.
Posted on 10/3/16 at 7:51 am to Signal Soldier
I agree. There wasn't any new revelations and the personal interviews with Amanda were boring.
These kinds of documentaries are in my wheel house but this one just didn't satisfy me, 2 stars out of 5.
These kinds of documentaries are in my wheel house but this one just didn't satisfy me, 2 stars out of 5.
Posted on 10/3/16 at 10:53 am to Signal Soldier
It was okay.
She still kind of comes off as distant.
But then again, she spent 4 years in an Italian prison for a crime she didn't commit. That would make most people, Andy Dufresne aloof and bitter and distant.
As other reviewers have pointed out...the doc would have been far better if they had focused more on how the Italian police totally botched this - on purpose - for headlines and got caught up in a modern day Salem witch trial full of absurd hysteria and crazy Satanic theories instead of the most obvious...Rudy Guede, rape and murder.
Maybe it's the Catholicism because even the lead investigator in the documentary always kept talking about God and evil and demons.
Like "Making a Murderer" the doc would have been far more fascinating to show how F-upped the Italian criminal justice system is and how nobody checks anybody up the food the chain...crazy theory starts on the street and moves upward unfettered to the highest court...until 4 years later they have to finally say..."uh, this is crazy, lower courts, police, are you people nuts?"
That was the final court ruling...basically a real life "rush to judgment" - the police focused on one crazy theory and ran with it...fit the evidence to match the story, instead of the other way around. Sold papers, became celebrities.
She still kind of comes off as distant.
But then again, she spent 4 years in an Italian prison for a crime she didn't commit. That would make most people, Andy Dufresne aloof and bitter and distant.
As other reviewers have pointed out...the doc would have been far better if they had focused more on how the Italian police totally botched this - on purpose - for headlines and got caught up in a modern day Salem witch trial full of absurd hysteria and crazy Satanic theories instead of the most obvious...Rudy Guede, rape and murder.
Maybe it's the Catholicism because even the lead investigator in the documentary always kept talking about God and evil and demons.
Like "Making a Murderer" the doc would have been far more fascinating to show how F-upped the Italian criminal justice system is and how nobody checks anybody up the food the chain...crazy theory starts on the street and moves upward unfettered to the highest court...until 4 years later they have to finally say..."uh, this is crazy, lower courts, police, are you people nuts?"
That was the final court ruling...basically a real life "rush to judgment" - the police focused on one crazy theory and ran with it...fit the evidence to match the story, instead of the other way around. Sold papers, became celebrities.
This post was edited on 10/3/16 at 10:55 am
Posted on 10/3/16 at 6:39 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
100% Guede did it.
He even said Knox wasn't there. The whole thing was just fricking bizarre and really sucks for her.
frick Italy anyway.
He even said Knox wasn't there. The whole thing was just fricking bizarre and really sucks for her.
frick Italy anyway.
Posted on 10/3/16 at 7:57 pm to STLhog
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100% Guede did it.
He even said Knox wasn't there. The whole thing was just fricking bizarre and really sucks for her.
frick Italy anyway.
No doubt. If this had happened anywhere else, Knox and her frick buddy would've never been charged.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:37 am to AlbertMeansWell
We watched this last night. My wife still kept saying, "there's just something not right about her". And I agree. But you can't charge someone for murder because of that. Her aloofness and general personality put her in a very weird position being so close to a murder. I can understand why she was a person of interest initially.
But it seems like no matter what the evidence, they used her "strange behavior" to tie it back constantly. They could have had video of a guy walking in with a duffle bag and coming out covered in blood, and they would have tried to prove that Amanda Knox was in that duffle bag. I think the documentary did a decent job of showing that. How the media and a few opinions spiraled into ruining someone's life. For people to be standing outside of the courtroom so angry when the initial verdict was overturned was insane. The story was already true in their eyes from the way it was depicted in the media. No need to worry that there was literally 0 evidence.
I'll admit that the false confessions are damning. But we see that over and over again. I just don't see how people are so stupid that they confess to stuff the didn't do.
Overall, this wasn't as interesting as I thought it'd be, but I really never paid attention to this case at all, so it's nice to get a detailed overview (however biased it may be).
But it seems like no matter what the evidence, they used her "strange behavior" to tie it back constantly. They could have had video of a guy walking in with a duffle bag and coming out covered in blood, and they would have tried to prove that Amanda Knox was in that duffle bag. I think the documentary did a decent job of showing that. How the media and a few opinions spiraled into ruining someone's life. For people to be standing outside of the courtroom so angry when the initial verdict was overturned was insane. The story was already true in their eyes from the way it was depicted in the media. No need to worry that there was literally 0 evidence.
I'll admit that the false confessions are damning. But we see that over and over again. I just don't see how people are so stupid that they confess to stuff the didn't do.
Overall, this wasn't as interesting as I thought it'd be, but I really never paid attention to this case at all, so it's nice to get a detailed overview (however biased it may be).
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:50 am to AlbertMeansWell
That Italian DA (or whatever he was) that participated in the documentary made himself look really bad. He started by saying how infatuated he was with murder-mystery detective shows and continually provided a window into his incompetent detective skills.
After screwing up something that egregiously, most people would show some tact or not participate at all in the documentary. He closes by saying that if she's guilty, she will have to answer to God in her ultimate trial. I don't think it even crossed his mind that he may as well over this entire situation.
After screwing up something that egregiously, most people would show some tact or not participate at all in the documentary. He closes by saying that if she's guilty, she will have to answer to God in her ultimate trial. I don't think it even crossed his mind that he may as well over this entire situation.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:55 am to litenin
Nothing really new but she's a wack job.
There are some disturbing things, like the phone call she made not too long after to a friend and the phone call to him after they were both acquitted. Hard to believe they only knew each other that short of a time.
I think she was so high she probably doesn't remember what really happened that night. Guede could have been protecting her.
There are some disturbing things, like the phone call she made not too long after to a friend and the phone call to him after they were both acquitted. Hard to believe they only knew each other that short of a time.
I think she was so high she probably doesn't remember what really happened that night. Guede could have been protecting her.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:26 am to nicholastiger
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Guede could have been protecting her
So he scrubbed the crime scene only leaving his DNA? Or was she cognizant enough to wear a full body suit to keep her DNA off of stuff, but high enough to go into a murderous rage. She was definitely a whack job, but I've met plenty of those. The way she talked to her friend on the phone was weird (especially when the friend made the comment about how this will be the best year of her life even after her roommate was murdered). But that doesn't point to her being a murderer even if it is suspicious.
Posted on 10/4/16 at 10:32 am to AlbertMeansWell
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Amanda Knox
Would bang, but would avoid letting her tie me up.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 1:54 am to AlbertMeansWell
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There wasn't any new revelations and the personal interviews with Amanda were boring.
this.
Late bump but just got around to watching it.
Posted on 1/18/17 at 10:10 am to nicholastiger
Late bump, finally got to see it. I actually knew next to nothing about the case before watching. (They left out one of the only things I DID know about, which was that the US refused to return her to Italy after she had been re-convicted. I always thought that was badass.)
quote:You were disturbed by the fact that she celebrated the actual ending of a crushing ordeal over 8 years with the only other person in the world who shared the ordeal with her? Weird.
There are some disturbing things, like the phone call she made not too long after to a friend and the phone call to him after they were both acquitted.
Posted on 1/18/17 at 11:06 am to Big Scrub TX
I didn't know much about the case, but this doc didn't hook me like Making a Murderer. The Italian investigator was clearly incompetent and had a bit of a God complex to boot. I don't think she's that weird, she's just understandably guarded, but that doesn't lead to a compelling interview.
Posted on 1/18/17 at 11:34 am to AlbertMeansWell
watched it last week
man that prosecutor was a fricking a-hole
i can't believe they could get a conviction with such flimsy evidence, and when it was shown the evidence was bunk, the population ignored that
man that prosecutor was a fricking a-hole
i can't believe they could get a conviction with such flimsy evidence, and when it was shown the evidence was bunk, the population ignored that
Posted on 1/18/17 at 11:52 am to SlowFlowPro
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man that prosecutor was a fricking a-hole
Honestly, most of them are (and some I consider dear friends).
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i can't believe they could get a conviction with such flimsy evidence, and when it was shown the evidence was bunk, the population ignored that
Yeah - they were still regulating morality - the prosecution successfully painted Knox as a fallen woman, and she was convicted for that. Unlike "Making a Murderer" - this one convinces me that Knox was not as involved as I previous suspected (or not at all).
This post was edited on 1/18/17 at 11:52 am
Posted on 1/18/17 at 1:08 pm to Ace Midnight
If you want to see how fricked up Giuliano Mignini is read "The Monster of Florence". The Knox case is not the first time that he went on a wild and crazy demonic ride prosecuting a case. To say our system is flawed is legit but the fact that this idiot has a job is incredible. And the Italian public still believes the shite this guy spews?
Posted on 1/18/17 at 2:06 pm to JackVincennes
quote:Italian society is deeply flawed and infected with machismo and false moralism.
If you want to see how fricked up Giuliano Mignini is read "The Monster of Florence". The Knox case is not the first time that he went on a wild and crazy demonic ride prosecuting a case. To say our system is flawed is legit but the fact that this idiot has a job is incredible. And the Italian public still believes the shite this guy spews?
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