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re: 1994 Year In Movies

Posted on 8/25/15 at 10:24 am to
Posted by lsusportsman2
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 10:24 am to
It seems like any year that ends in a 4 has epic movies that year. I agree with the people that said 1984, that was a fantastic movie year. Ghostbusters, Beverly Hills Cop, Indiana Jones, The Terminator, The Karate Kid, etc.
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 10:27 am to
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Hell, $20 wont buy you a coke and popcorn now



If I remember right, $20 would get us into 2 movies, a medium popcorn and coke, candy, and enough left over to play a few video games.

I think the tickets were $3 each. Popcorn coke, and candy added up to about $10, and that left about $4 to play arcade games.
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 10:41 am to
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not in my case, i was in HS in 1984



I guess not. I just look at that 94 list, and though there are some great movies on it, other than Forrest Gump and Dumb & Dumber, I really don't see any generation defining movies. 84 was full of them.

But I also didn't spend a lot of time in the theaters in 94, so I admit my bias.
Posted by elprez00
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 10:57 am to
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I just look at that 94 list, and though there are some great movies on it, other than Forrest Gump and Dumb & Dumber, I really don't see any generation defining movies. 84 was full of them.

I mean, I consider the generational defining movie of the 80's to be The Breakfast Club. 84 was a great year, but I don't consider Ghostbusters to be generation defining. GOAT comedy, yes. But being GOAT =/= Generational Defining.

I guess were arguing over definitions here.
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 11:08 am to
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I guess were arguing over definitions here.


Probably. When I think 80's movies, there are many I think of, and a lot of them were from 84. Ghostbusters, Karate Kid, Sixteen Candles, Footloose, Gremlins, etc.

When I think 90's movies, there are only 3 from 94 I think of. Forrest Gump, Dumb & Dumber, and Pulp Fiction.

Both were great years, and 94 was probably better as far as the quality of the movies, I just think 84 has a deeper bench of good to really good movies. And again, a lot of that preference is my nostalgia. Seeing Ghostbusters and Karate Kid for the first time, on the same day, at the theater? Get out of here.
Posted by REG861
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 11:17 am to
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When I think 90's movies, there are only 3 from 94 I think of. Forrest Gump, Dumb & Dumber, and Pulp Fiction


No Shawshank Redemption? Speed? Lion King?
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 12:27 pm to
Okay, I'll give you Shawshank Redemption.

Speed was garbage.


Only watched Lion King for the first time about 10 years ago when I had kids. Doesn't make me think of the 90's, though i is a great movie.
Posted by elprez00
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 12:35 pm to
Just thinking about this makes me sad, though. There has been a remarkable drop in the quality of Music/Movies/TV in the last 15 years, and I'm not just saying that because I'm getting older. Every decade seems to have a unique "sound" to it.

I mean, if you can usually tell an 80s song when you hear it. Hair Rock and 80's Pop were pretty awesome. You had the beginnings of hip hop. There are definitely 80's movies, like Back To School, Sixteen Candles, Ferris. 80's TV like Magnum.

The 90's brought your grunge/alt rock, some solid pop music, and of course boy bands. Movies like 10 Things, Cant Hardly Wait, and American Pie are definitely 90s movies. Seinfeld, Friends on TV.

Then the 00's came. Whats the defining music from that decade? Beiber? What movie defined that decade? Superbad? Isn't that move just as applicable in the previous 2 decades? Quality TV started moving away from networks to cable. Sure you had some solid sitcoms, but what about them made them 00's sitcoms? The internet?

Its just sad. Everything as a whole is suffering in quality. I think its a reflection of the instant gratification culture. We want a hit now. We want $$$ now. If Seinfeld is released today, does it make it past the first season? Does NBC give it a chance to find its audience?

I'm a little off-topic I know. But going to the movies has always been a big deal in my life. It's been a few years since there has been a stretch where I just had to get to the theater to see something not involving a comic book.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 12:40 pm to
What you are saying is basically said every generation. I guarantee you there were some "old guys" in the 90's lamenting how rock wasn't as good as the 60's movies not as good as the 70's etc.

Networks may not let shows grow like they did in the past, but that's not really necessary anymore. I think we are in the golden age of TV the last 15 years or so because of the great shows on cable and now we are seeing stuff created by Netflix and Amazon that are straight streaming.
Posted by musick
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 12:41 pm to
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Then the 00's came. Whats the defining music from that decade? Beiber? What movie defined that decade? Superbad? Isn't that move just as applicable in the previous 2 decades? Quality TV started moving away from networks to cable. Sure you had some solid sitcoms, but what about them made them 00's sitcoms? The internet?


shite-pop defines the music of the 00s and it's sad.

TV though 2000-2010 has The Wire, LOST, Heroes, Breaking Bad, Arrested Development, Mad Men, The OFfice, THe Shield, Battlestar, Futurama, How I met your Mother, Chappelle Show, The IT Crowd, Peep Show.

I think the defining element of TV from that decade is we got higher quality stuff in terms of being smart and more thought provoking.

Music, yea music sucks after 1999, the only good new shite is people that are still lingering from the 90s IMO.

Movie: I really can't list a defining movie from the 2000-2010 decade. I guess the Pixar ones (incredibles, wall-e) are the most defining. Or No Country and There will be blood.

It's probably The Dark Knight just for Ledger's performance alone.
This post was edited on 8/25/15 at 12:45 pm
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 12:56 pm to
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There has been a remarkable drop in the quality of Music/Movies/TV in the last 15 years,


I disagree. The TV medium has switched to HBO, AMC, and even Netflix. Some of the best shows ever made have been made over the past 15 years.

In music, the 00's saw indie music go more mainstream, though that trend started in the 90's. Also saw broader appeal of At-country/Americana music.

I don't follow movies as closely anymore, so can't comment on them, but TV and music have definitely been fine over the past 15 years.
Posted by elprez00
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 1:01 pm to
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What you are saying is basically said every generation. I guarantee you there were some "old guys" in the 90's lamenting how rock wasn't as good as the 60's movies not as good as the 70's etc.


Bull. Rock had an awesome run for 40 years. I was born in 82, and I love to look at the progression of rock from 55 on. I don't remember anyone bitching about what Pearl Jam or Soundgarden was doing. Nirvanna is consistently mentioned on Best Ever lists.

Then 00 hit, and rock died. There isn't even a rock station anymore in South Louisiana.

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Networks may not let shows grow like they did in the past, but that's not really necessary anymore.

It is necessary. I'm not a fan of the binge watch mentality, even though I do it. I hated Breaking Bad, not because it wasn't great TV, but because I binge watched it. You don't have time to digest it, to stew on it. Instant gratification doesn't build the anticipation that exists on network TV. Now thats not to take away from some of the excellent stuff being put out by Netflix. I'll agree with your statement concerning drama. HBO/AMC are killing it, I mean KILLING IT with quality programming.
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 1:06 pm to
80's music was not looked on favorably by my parents and their friends.
Posted by musick
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 1:28 pm to
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Then 00 hit, and rock died. There isn't even a rock station anymore in South Louisiana.


What's even more telling to me is that they now play stuff like Nirvana and Soundgarden on Eagle 98.1 classic rock.

They had a 90s alternative station in BR for a while that was damn good, but no ratings, no care I guess.

I agree that TV and movies have gotten better for the most part but I'm sorry music has not. Rock is deader than dead, to quote Mr. Manson. There might be good indie stuff out there but no one knows what it is because it isn't on mainstream outlets. I'm glad artists like Trent Reznor and Jerry Cantrell, Maynard, Deftones, Radiohead, etc are still out there doing stuff because when those last few lingering dudes are gone, we are in for a ever bleaker time in music unless some kind of revolution is sparked.
This post was edited on 8/25/15 at 1:39 pm
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 1:32 pm to
Think about a product that was released in the early 00's that may help give the impression rock died.

Rock did not die. The way we discover and listen to rock died. There is still a lot of good rock music being made. It's just not delivered right to your car or home radio, you have to get out and find it.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 1:41 pm to
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80's music was not looked on favorably by my parents and their friends.


Well, your parents and their friends are wrong.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 1:45 pm to
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What's even more telling to me is that they now play stuff like Nirvana and Soundgarden on Eagle 98.1 classic rock.


Thats just cause were getting old, bro.

Pearl Jams Ten was released in 1991, 23 years ago. When I was growing up listening to Queen and Led Zeppelin on "Classic" rock stations in the 80s, those albums were around the same age as Ten, Nevermind, etc. I know, its hard to believe.
Posted by elprez00
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 1:52 pm to
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Rock did not die. The way we discover and listen to rock died.

No, rock died. It's never been easier to find music than it is today. There's just nothing out there.

And we're off topic.
Posted by musick
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 2:04 pm to
I have a 1994 thread in the music board....take the music discussion there. I proposed someone to give me a year that beats it.

Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 8/25/15 at 2:28 pm to
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Bull. Rock had an awesome run for 40 years. I was born in 82, and I love to look at the progression of rock from 55 on. I don't remember anyone bitching about what Pearl Jam or Soundgarden was doing. Nirvanna is consistently mentioned on Best Ever lists.



It's not Bull, you totally missed the point. Of course people your age didn't bitch about PJ etc because you were kids. But dudes that were born in the 50's and grew up with the Beatles, Stones, or Zepplin did gripe about it (not all of course but many). I'm on the cusp, the year grunge broke was my last year in college, my friends that are a bit older are not into it but they still listen to the stuff they listened to as kids.

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It is necessary. I'm not a fan of the binge watch mentality, even though I do it. I hated Breaking Bad, not because it wasn't great TV, but because I binge watched it


sorry but it is not necessary, not anymore. People can put out quality programing in other ways, whether on cable or direct to streaming. And no one is forcing you to binge watch, you could have watched BB as it aired. I'm watching it now and watch 1 episode a week at most. I did the same with the Wire. I binged the first season of the Americans to catch up and watched seasons 2-3 weekly.
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