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Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:58 am to
Posted by eddieray
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 10:58 am to
If it's 0-0, kick the FG on 4th and short even inside the 5.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:13 am to
-- I miss violence. There's a lot of factors which have contributed to it, and not all of them are bad (it's probably better for players sports are not as violent), but as a fan... I miss the violence. Pretty much across sports, the games are not as physical as they once were, as the rules and culture make it more and more of a skill game.

-- Old people overrate old players, but young people overrate current players. We are not evolving as a species at some fantastic rate, and the financial incentives for full-time athletes were in place by the mid-80s. Athletes are not better now, but we do have better training and technology. But most track records are pretty constant. Hell, the long jump record has now been held longer than Beamon had it in 1968. Eras are different, but not better/worse by and large.

-- The last two minutes of a basketball game are tense, but it isn't really basketball. The amount of stoppages plus foul shots turn it into a different game. All non-shooting fouls in the final two minutes should be one shot and the ball.

-- The baseball wild card game is great. It contracted the playoffs by expanding it. winning your division matters again.

-- Regular season results are more meaningful than playoff results. Playoffs aren't quite the crapshoot statheads insists, but it is easier for lesser teams to win in the playoffs (or teams constructed for the playoffs). We should value pennants and regular season titles more (except NFL division titles, which are meaningless).

-- Staying healthy is a skill. There's no such thing as a "mere compiler". If everyone could stick around, stay healthy, and play forever, everyone would do it. It's hard, and is an undervalued element of greatness. Flashes in the pan are remembered, but aren't as valuable to a team. I'd rather have Bert Blyleven's whole career than Koufax's.
Posted by QuackAttack716
Member since Aug 2011
1377 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:16 am to
LeBron is a great guy who has never been in trouble, does a lot to give back (see i Promise and full tuition scholarships), and is the model off the court superstar.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79096 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:19 am to
Saturday morning premier league games are quickly approaching the top of my "sports I enjoy watching" list

-doesn't interfere with anything else
-nice way to start weekend
-goes well with coffee or alcohol or both
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64455 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:38 am to
quote:

-- The last two minutes of a basketball game are tense, but it isn't really basketball. The amount of stoppages plus foul shots turn it into a different game. All non-shooting fouls in the final two minutes should be one shot and the ball.

the league average for free throws per game has actually remained pretty constant the past 25 years and has actually graudlly trended down. It's also much lower than it was in the mid 80s
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The rules about stoppages haven't changed either, nor have FT rules
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 11:39 am
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:38 am to
I agree with pretty much everything on your list except this:

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-- Old people overrate old players, but young people overrate current players. We are not evolving as a species at some fantastic rate, and the financial incentives for full-time athletes were in place by the mid-80s. Athletes are not better now, but we do have better training and technology. But most track records are pretty constant. Hell, the long jump record has now been held longer than Beamon had it in 1968. Eras are different, but not better/worse by and large.


The population upon which elite athletes are drawn is much, much bigger than it was forty or even twenty years ago in pretty much every major sport in the world. The United States has added 100 million people since 1977; developing economies are much wealthier, bigger, and produce elite athletes at a rate that is several multiples better than even a generation ago; all the major sports except American football have a much larger global footprint than they did even a generation ago.

You're just going to get better athletes when the pool is that much larger. I think your long jump example is something of an exception that proves the rule.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:42 am to
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the league average for free throws per game has actually remained pretty constant the past 25 years


Yes, and it was horrible 25 years ago, too. That's pretty much a constant of basketball strategy my whole lfie. That has nothing to do with different eras. That's not a "basketball is getting worse". Hell, the WORST offender of all-time is that 1983 NC State team because there was no double bonus back then.

I hate the last two minutes of a close game. It's the only sport in which the game fundamentally changes.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:49 am to
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You're just going to get better athletes when the pool is that much larger. I think your long jump example is something of an exception that proves the rule.


There's about 50 track and field records, about half of them were set in the past decade. About a dozen were set over 20 years ago. And a lot of that can be attributed to the jackrabbit effect (it's easier to chase an already achieved record) and advances in technology.

We have more people, but we also have more sports. I do think the biggest technology advances are in medicine. We used to lose a ton of athletes to injury, many before they even became great so they remained forever unknown. there are very few injuries that are career enders anymore, and some can even make you better (like Tommy John surgery).
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 12:22 pm to
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That's not true. League average is right around where it's been for the last 10 years, probably more.


I said on any given night. I check scores each night and I always see half of the teams with attrocious percentages. The reason it averages out is because it's high risk high reward. I just hate seeing people continue to shoot deep threes when they are already 0-6. If you aren't hot recognize that it's not your night and take easier shots.
Posted by thekid
Anna, Tx
Member since May 2006
3937 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 12:24 pm to
One and done has ruined college basketball

Offsides calls in soccer make zero sense...how is it logical to give the defense an advantage for running away from the goal they are defending...draw a line and make the ball cross before the players get in the zone and it would increase scoring and make the sport much more entertaining
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
7994 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

There's about 50 track and field records, about half of them were set in the past decade. About a dozen were set over 20 years ago. And a lot of that can be attributed to the jackrabbit effect (it's easier to chase an already achieved record) and advances in technology.


In track, in particular, I am a little weary of those records (especially the female ones) because of how juiced up a lot of the Eastern bloc was thirty years ago. I'm not sure it's a good indicator given the interplay between PEDs and enhanced testing (even besides the Eastern bloc shenanigans) over the last couple of generations.

I do agree with you on medicine in particular and training, health, and fitness in general. If you consider golf a sport, then that's example A of just how much an effect fitness has had on a sport.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64455 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 12:39 pm to
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Yes, and it was horrible 25 years ago, too. That's pretty much a constant of basketball strategy my whole lfie. That has nothing to do with different eras. That's not a "basketball is getting worse". Hell, the WORST offender of all-time is that 1983 NC State team because there was no double bonus back then.

well your whole argument began with Kobe playing in the best era of basketball ever, and then said you missed the way the game used to be. I don't even know what your argument is now if you're basically saying basketball has been horrible for decades.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
7994 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 12:42 pm to
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Offsides calls in soccer make zero sense...how is it logical to give the defense an advantage for running away from the goal they are defending...draw a line and make the ball cross before the players get in the zone and it would increase scoring and make the sport much more entertaining



Haven't they tried this with some high level exhibitions or leagues?

I could be mistaken, but the results were that the game became pretty much unwatchable: a lot of sand-bagging, not very much fluidity, clogging up the box, etc.
Posted by Stuckinthe90s
Dallas, TX
Member since Apr 2013
2576 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 12:58 pm to
Any record or time achieved in swimming in anything other than a speedo/briefs is not legit.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38363 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:01 pm to
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Offsides calls in soccer make zero sense...how is it logical to give the defense an advantage for running away from the goal they are defending


If you don't have an offsides in soccer then you end up with the forward or forwards just camping out in the box, eliminating himself and the defenders for major stretches of the game. So you end up with long balls and all of the sudden guys that are playing power forward for the lakers are now playing striker for Real Madrid. You would see teams just bombing long balls down the field to their giant striker that's camped out in the box, eliminating the midfield and making for an extremely boring game. It would be like 7-on-7 football, or eliminating the "3 in the key" in basketball. With the way the rule is now, it requires cohesion between the back line, usually 3-5 players, and it requires the forwards to time their runs and the midfielders to time their passes. One mental lapse by one defender and the forward is off to the races, it requires phenomenal focus.

For the record, a player can only be offsides in the opponents half of the field. If all of the defenders are in the attacking half and their team turns the ball over, then the forward can get behind them and receive a pass if he hasn't crossed the halfway line. It would be an incredibly boring sport if offsides was eliminated. I think there are fewer than 20 rules in soccer, which is nothing compared to most sports. As far as rewarding them for running away from the goal they're defending, that depends on if they're playing a savvy forward or not. The good ones will beat an offside trap and be through on goal, which is the opposite of rewarding a team for moving away from the goal they're defending
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 1:04 pm
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:01 pm to
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well your whole argument began with Kobe playing in the best era of basketball ever,


I never mentioned Kobe. Nor did I say he played in the best era ever. In fact, I argued that eras aren't better or worse, just different. I don't think basketball is getting better or worse, it's just changing, just like every other sport. I do miss the violence, but that's a personal thing I liked, not a quality issue.

Endgame fouling is just in an general strategy issue.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:02 pm to
The Chase playoff format is excellent theater in NASCAR.
Posted by sowega dawg
Member since May 2011
3935 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:18 pm to
Barry Bonds should be in the HOF
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
2975 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 2:26 pm to
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Barry Bonds should be in the HOF


The MLB HOF is such a joke. All these holier than thou pricks thinking they hold such morality that they can't put someone in for using a substance that was used by 75% of the league.

Oh and not to mention that Curt Schilling who is probably a top 20 pitcher all time (looking at regular and postseason) won't get in because these losers disagree with his politics.

Most sports writers are absolutely insufferable, but that's probably a pretty popular opinion.
Posted by chadr07
Pineville, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
7863 posts
Posted on 3/21/17 at 4:30 pm to
We do?.. I definitely didn't know that if true.
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