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Would the Triple Option work at a big school?
Posted on 11/20/15 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 11/20/15 at 1:00 pm
I have always thought of the triple option as an alternative for a school that can't get elite talent consistently (Service School, Georgia Tech)
Could it work with elite players?
Could it work with elite players?
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Posted on 11/20/15 at 1:01 pm to SammyTiger
Didn't we just do this thread?
Posted on 11/20/15 at 1:03 pm to td01241
I don't know
i didn't search
i didn't search
Posted on 11/20/15 at 1:10 pm to SammyTiger
If it can work with non elite players why would it not work with elite players?
Posted on 11/20/15 at 1:23 pm to SammyTiger
why can't GaTech get elite talent?
And Arkansas beat us running the same play with McFadden at QB, Felix Jones running the sweep and Peyton Hillis on the side of McFadden. snap the ball, McFadden does what he wants, Arkansas runs all over us.
and you're an idiot.
And Arkansas beat us running the same play with McFadden at QB, Felix Jones running the sweep and Peyton Hillis on the side of McFadden. snap the ball, McFadden does what he wants, Arkansas runs all over us.
and you're an idiot.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 1:25 pm to SammyTiger
Navy is a one loss CFP contender, big school and they utilize the triple option.
Auburn went to a National Title running triple option.
Auburn went to a National Title running triple option.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 1:28 pm to SammyTiger
quote:The main issue with the offense is the byproduct...fumbles. Last 6 years ranking for Georgia Tech:
Georgia Tech
2015 - 114th with 11 fumbles
2014 - 96th with 12
2013 - 86th with 11
2012 - 87th with 13
2011 - 61st with 11
2010 - 119th with 20
Also, most of those fumbles aren't downfield like an interception. They're at or behind the line of scrimmage.
Running that offense you have to have a very good defense. Paul Johnson won multiple national championships at Georgia Southern because his defense was very good combined with an offense that kept the other team on the sidelines.
GT issue's issue has always been defense. You can't give up 30+ points a game and expect to win playing the triple option. Even back under Ralph Friedgen they struggled on the defensive side of the ball because of depth and talent.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 1:30 pm to GeauxTigersLee
You need to look at turnovers not fumbles.
That's weak.
A team that runs the ball a lot more than a team that primarily throws is more likely to fumble?
You don't say.
That's weak.
A team that runs the ball a lot more than a team that primarily throws is more likely to fumble?
You don't say.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 1:32 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:
Auburn went to a National Title running triple option.
You're going to catch hell for that one. I am staying out of it, I put my work in on yesterday's thread
Posted on 11/20/15 at 1:37 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:Have you watched GT or Navy? Most of the fumbles in that type of offense happen behind or at the line of scrimmage during the exchange. Even heavy running teams like LSU don't typically fumble for negative yards a majority of the time. And interceptions are far less costly than fumbles due to field position.
You need to look at turnovers not fumbles.
Here's GT's total turnovers the last 6 years for you:
2015 - 78th
2014 - 34th
2013 - 89th
2012 - 54th
2011 - 32nd
2010 - 95th
How about this as well to further emphasize that point:
quote:LINK
After adjusting net yardage resulting from lost fumbles, the average cost of a fumble is at least 0.3 points more than for an interception (4.65 vs. 4.35). Recall, the adjustment was to replace all positive net yard fumbles with zero. This is a best case scenario. For example, suppose a runner gained 10 yards before fumbling and the defensive player returned the fumble for 15 yards. In our data, we'd record this as a -5 net yard play, even though we should consider it as -15 yards (from the spot of the fumble). Therefore, it's very likely that the average value of a fumble is even more costly than we have concluded.
This post was edited on 11/20/15 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 11/20/15 at 1:39 pm to GeauxTigersLee
So they're about average.
And that interception field position anecdote is complete bullshite
And that interception field position anecdote is complete bullshite
Posted on 11/20/15 at 1:43 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:
Auburn went to a National Title running triple option.
definitely an option offense, but not the Triple Option with capital letters.
I mean specifically an option with a dive man, and a pitch man.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 1:47 pm to SammyTiger
quote:
definitely an option offense, but not the Triple Option with capital letters.
I mean specifically an option with a dive man, and a pitch man.
And there it is....Cue up the music!!! Because I got me a chair and a drink with an umbrella in it for this one.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 1:47 pm to SammyTiger
The kryptonite of the Triple Option is the lateral quickness of linebackers which is standard in the NFL and by elite teams in the power 5 conferences. What can alleviate that is the ability to have a capable option pass element to complement the running ability, that way, while the linebackers are running east/west, you can attack north/south.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 1:48 pm to kingbob
Or you can do what Navy does, widen the splits in the middle of a drive to give the dive a better chance and run the dives from the C/G to G/T.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 1:59 pm to SammyTiger
You can run Triple Option out of the gun. Capital T and O!
Posted on 11/20/15 at 2:25 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:
You can run Triple Option out of the gun. Capital T and O!
Sure you can, but Auburn didn't.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 2:26 pm to SammyTiger
Preytell
Posted on 11/20/15 at 2:36 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:
Preytell
LINK
watch the video. They don't really run any triple option plays
Sometimes they have a swing man as a misdirection, but generally they run a 2 man read option.
If you want to say they ran the Triple Option give me some proof.
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