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Why this year's Gonzaga team is different
Posted by ClientNumber9 on 2/23/17 at 10:05 pm81
In addition to being 28-0 and likely finishing the season undefeated, they are well ahead of previous Gonzaga teams.
It's hard to gauge how good they are because they play in a weak conference but look at the compared to other high seeded Gonzaga squads.
-The 2013 team also went 16-0 in conference play but won five of those games by less than 10 points.
-The 2015 team that went to the Elite Eight didn't have many conference blowouts either, and lost game to BYU.
This year Gonzaga is shredding teams. They beat ranked Florida, Arizona, Iowa State, St. Mary's (twice by double digits). Nonranked games against Power 5 foes garnered wins against Tennessee and Washington (by 27 points).
Meanwhile, they're winning conference games by an average of 26 points a game. I don't care who you are- it's hard to be that focused and blow out that many opponents by those margins, every game. Unless you're really, really good. On that note, they're at halftime now and winning 44-16. How do you even give a shite about playing hard defense at that point? I don't think they're going to win it all but they are going to prove some haters wrong this postseason.
Bonus discussion question: if they drop a game, even the WCC Championship game, do they keep a 1 seed?
It's hard to gauge how good they are because they play in a weak conference but look at the compared to other high seeded Gonzaga squads.
-The 2013 team also went 16-0 in conference play but won five of those games by less than 10 points.
-The 2015 team that went to the Elite Eight didn't have many conference blowouts either, and lost game to BYU.
This year Gonzaga is shredding teams. They beat ranked Florida, Arizona, Iowa State, St. Mary's (twice by double digits). Nonranked games against Power 5 foes garnered wins against Tennessee and Washington (by 27 points).
Meanwhile, they're winning conference games by an average of 26 points a game. I don't care who you are- it's hard to be that focused and blow out that many opponents by those margins, every game. Unless you're really, really good. On that note, they're at halftime now and winning 44-16. How do you even give a shite about playing hard defense at that point? I don't think they're going to win it all but they are going to prove some haters wrong this postseason.
Bonus discussion question: if they drop a game, even the WCC Championship game, do they keep a 1 seed?
re: Why this year's Gonzaga team is differentPosted by LSUtoOmaha on 2/23/17 at 10:08 pm to ClientNumber9
They would keep the one seed.
re: Why this year's Gonzaga team is differentPosted by ihometiger on 2/23/17 at 10:10 pm to LSUtoOmaha
They are up 40 right now against San Diego with 16 mins to go in the 2nd half.
re: Why this year's Gonzaga team is differentPosted by BayouBengals03 on 2/23/17 at 10:17 pm to ClientNumber9
The fourth 1 seed is an interesting question.
North Carolina looking more and more like they might grab it. But you've also got two 3-loss teams in the Pac 12 that have an argument too. If Arizona wins out and wins the Pac 12 tournament in Vegas, they might get it.
North Carolina looking more and more like they might grab it. But you've also got two 3-loss teams in the Pac 12 that have an argument too. If Arizona wins out and wins the Pac 12 tournament in Vegas, they might get it.
re: Why this year's Gonzaga team is differentPosted by 632627 on 2/23/17 at 10:26 pm to ClientNumber9
I feel like every year we hear "this years gonzaga team is different", yet they always flame out relatively early in the tournament
re: Why this year's Gonzaga team is differentPosted by UltimateHog on 2/23/17 at 10:27 pm to 632627
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I feel like every year we hear "this years gonzaga team is different"
we do
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yet they always flame out relatively early in the tournament
they will
re: Why this year's Gonzaga team is differentPosted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa on 2/23/17 at 10:29 pm to UltimateHog
The year Gonzaga team is different, is the year the media stops talking about them again.
Zags will make a Final Four when they are something like #34 in the nation like the old days.
Zags will make a Final Four when they are something like #34 in the nation like the old days.
re: Why this year's Gonzaga team is differentPosted by ihometiger on 2/23/17 at 10:36 pm to UltimateHog
Gonzaga is now up 51 with six mins to play
re: Why this year's Gonzaga team is differentPosted by ihometiger on 2/23/17 at 10:38 pm to UltimateHog
zags have only lost 4 times out of 18 times to higher seeds. Seth Curry with Davidson was one and Wichita State was the latest who went on to the final four and had three NBA players drafted from that team.
They are now up 60!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This post was edited on 2/23 at 10:44 pm
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re: Why this year's Gonzaga team is differentPosted by TheWalrus on 2/23/17 at 10:56 pm to ClientNumber9
JWIII made a pretty good decision to transfer.
re: Why this year's Gonzaga team is differentPosted by CelticDog on 2/24/17 at 7:54 am to BayouBengals03
Zags beat zona.
One hypothetical loss to mary in champ game wcc playing 3rd time vs mary or head to head.
One hypothetical loss to mary in champ game wcc playing 3rd time vs mary or head to head.
re: Why this year's Gonzaga team is differentPosted by Dire Wolf on 2/24/17 at 7:57 am to ClientNumber9
Is pardon my take ever wrong?
re: Why this year's Gonzaga team is differentPosted by Lou Pai on 2/24/17 at 8:40 am to ClientNumber9
Zags are fricking sick man
re: Why this year's Gonzaga team is differentPosted by HogFanfromHTown on 2/24/17 at 8:58 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Zags will make a Final Four when they are something like #34 in the nation like the old days.
Huh? Zags have never made a Final Four. They've been to two elite eights 1999 and 2015. Their first in DI NCAA tournament appearance was in 1995, where are these old days with Final Fours?? lol
re: Why this year's Gonzaga team is differentPosted by VADawg on 2/24/17 at 9:26 am to HogFanfromHTown
IMO, their best shot ever at a Final Four was the Adam Morrison team that dominated UCLA for 37 minutes and blew a 11 point lead in the final 3 minutes. UCLA got to the title game that season.
re: Why this year's Gonzaga team is differentPosted by Speedy G on 2/24/17 at 10:14 am to ihometiger
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Wichita State was the latest who went on to the final four and had three NBA players drafted from that team.
And were an undefeated 1 seed the next season.
re: Why this year's Gonzaga team is differentPosted by AbuTheMonkey on 2/24/17 at 10:23 am to ihometiger
I count five times there (2002, 2004, 2005, 2008, and 2013).
Actually, that chart is kind of damning: they've never outperformed their seed when being seeded in the top half of the bracket (1 through 8 seed) and they've underperformed their seed five times over that stretch (2002, 2004, 2005, 2008, and 2013) when ranked in the top half of the bracket.
Actually, that chart is kind of damning: they've never outperformed their seed when being seeded in the top half of the bracket (1 through 8 seed) and they've underperformed their seed five times over that stretch (2002, 2004, 2005, 2008, and 2013) when ranked in the top half of the bracket.
This post was edited on 2/24 at 10:29 am
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