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Why the Clippers Aren't Built To Win in the Playoffs

Posted on 3/27/13 at 11:02 am
Posted by Boomhauer
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/27/13 at 11:02 am
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Solid video. Really shows how many major weaknesses the Clippers have.

Thoughts?
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27871 posts
Posted on 3/27/13 at 11:06 am to
They depend on Chris Paul too much, and that's never gotten anyone anywhere.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110661 posts
Posted on 3/27/13 at 11:12 am to
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They depend on Chris Paul too much, and that's never gotten anyone anywhere. 

Teams with Paul on them haven't gotten anywhere because they depended on Paul or is it because he's never had talent around him to make a deep run?

I mean, the Hornets overachieved when he was there, especially the year they were the 2 seed.
Posted by xenythx
Member since Dec 2007
32417 posts
Posted on 3/27/13 at 11:18 am to
Reason #1: Their coach sucks.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94843 posts
Posted on 3/27/13 at 11:20 am to
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Teams with Paul on them haven't gotten anywhere because they depended on Paul or is it because he's never had talent around him to make a deep run?


Paul's had talent around him but questionable coaching and Vinny Del Negro is a crap coach.

They aren't going past the second round until he's replaced with a better coach.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94843 posts
Posted on 3/27/13 at 11:20 am to
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Reason #1: Their coach sucks.


You boiled my argument down pretty well.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27871 posts
Posted on 3/27/13 at 11:22 am to
I suppose you can argue it both ways. When they got off to that great start earlier everyone was talking about all the talent on the roster (while also praising CP). Now that they've fallen a good bit, people are saying the roster wasn't very good to begin with.

I'm of the opinion that they were never that talented, and that they depend on CP too much.

They definitely overachieved when CP should've won the MVP, but that roster was definitely solid. A healthy Tyson Chandler playing as well as he ever had, DWest in his prime, CP back when he was athletically superior to most. They got 77 games out of Peja.
Posted by Bout_Dat_Lyfe
Member since Jan 2013
1968 posts
Posted on 3/27/13 at 11:58 am to
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Reason #1: Their coach sucks.

I agree with this. Del negro coaches them to be soft and they try to rely on drawing fouls too much rather than focusing on just grabbing boards and playing legit D. Btw; I didn't watch the video, so my post might be redundant.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18981 posts
Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:12 pm to
They have one of the worst coaches in the NBA thats why they aren't built for the playoffs not because of paul, blake or anything else
Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Member since Jan 2008
13604 posts
Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:25 pm to
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Teams with Paul on them haven't gotten anywhere because they depended on Paul or is it because he's never had talent around him to make a deep run?
its never chris paul's fault. hes starting to get the carmelo treatment where no matter what happens, it isnt his fault and you just blame the pieces around him.

youve got CP3, widely regarded as a top 2 PG in the league. an athletic 4 whos a franchise cornerstone. an athletic big man in jordan. savvy vet caron butler. past his prime but still effective chancey billups and his leadership and a very good bench. not many teams boast these types of assets. and blaming the coach is fricking weak.
Posted by Boomhauer
Member since Dec 2012
2606 posts
Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:27 pm to
That's the exact reason to blame the coach. They have all this talent and still can't win anything.
Posted by deathvalleyjunkie
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
2016 posts
Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:46 pm to
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youve got CP3, widely regarded as a top 2 PG in the league. an athletic 4 whos a franchise cornerstone. an athletic big man in jordan. savvy vet caron butler. past his prime but still effective chancey billups and his leadership and a very good bench. not many teams boast these types of assets. and blaming the coach is fricking weak.


its clearly the coach
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:49 pm to
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They have all this talent and still can't win anything.


What talent, exactly?

Outside of Paul/Griffin, the are lacking.

Their 3rd best player is Eric Bledsoe.

Their perceived talent level is overstated, IMO.
Posted by Boomhauer
Member since Dec 2012
2606 posts
Posted on 3/27/13 at 12:57 pm to
Uhhhhh, Jordan
Posted by lsusportsman2
Member since Oct 2007
27232 posts
Posted on 3/27/13 at 1:00 pm to
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Reason #1: Their coach sucks.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 3/27/13 at 1:04 pm to
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Uhhhhh, Jordan


And 8/7 guy with shot blocking ability isn't exactly out of this world.

He's a good player, but he's not a championship cornerstone.
Posted by floridatigah
FL
Member since Oct 2004
10395 posts
Posted on 3/27/13 at 1:08 pm to
Thank you. They just aren't as good as the Spurs, Thunder, and possibly Nuggets. That's why they won't win in the playoffs.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64091 posts
Posted on 3/27/13 at 1:18 pm to
So an average center who is a good athlete is a championship piece?
Posted by floridatigah
FL
Member since Oct 2004
10395 posts
Posted on 3/27/13 at 1:20 pm to
People love Jordan because of the alley oops. There are at least 12 centers clearly better than Jordan and most don't have to sit on the bench at the end of games.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110661 posts
Posted on 3/27/13 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

Paul's had talent around him but questionable coaching and Vinny Del Negro is a crap coach.

They aren't going past the second round until he's replaced with a better coach
IMO, it has much less to do with the coach than it does the simple fact that OKC and SA are flat out better teams.
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