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Why is Bill Russell not the GOAT?
Posted on 6/19/16 at 11:09 pm
Posted on 6/19/16 at 11:09 pm
13 Seasons
1 Team
11 NBA titles (8 straight)
5 x NBA Finals MVP
1 Team
11 NBA titles (8 straight)
5 x NBA Finals MVP
Posted on 6/19/16 at 11:10 pm to Make It Rayne
I always put him top 5. He was the most dominant player of his era.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 11:10 pm to Make It Rayne
quote:He is.
Why is Bill Russell not the GOAT?
Posted on 6/19/16 at 11:10 pm to Make It Rayne
Retired before the Jordan-lovers were born.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 11:11 pm to Make It Rayne
he played in an era without many teams so titles are somewhat less valuable
he played on a super team
his individual accomplishments weren't the best of his era
he played on a super team
his individual accomplishments weren't the best of his era
Posted on 6/19/16 at 11:11 pm to Make It Rayne
Because other players were better.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 11:12 pm to dbeck
quote:Incorrect. Jordan is considered the GOAT by a consensus of fans/analysts who go all the way back
Retired before the Jordan-lovers were born.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 11:13 pm to Make It Rayne
Did you miss the game tonight?
Posted on 6/19/16 at 11:15 pm to Make It Rayne
quote:
13 Seasons
1 Team
11 NBA titles (8 straight)
5 x NBA Finals MVP
On paper it's ridiculous. But you have to put all of that in context
Posted on 6/19/16 at 11:15 pm to Make It Rayne
That was before the merger and there were only about 8 to 10 teams. Very few players were his size. can you imagine no limits on spending, no draft, etc? the league was so different and insignificant at that time.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 11:17 pm to airfernando
Bill Russell is essentially a rich man's super competitive version of Ben Wallace
Russell is the greatest winner of all time but not even close to the greatest player
Russell is the greatest winner of all time but not even close to the greatest player
Posted on 6/19/16 at 11:18 pm to Make It Rayne
The NBA had like 3 decent teams at that time and the Celtics had multiple Hall of Famers. His winning was outstanding, but a bit overrated historically IMO.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 11:20 pm to Froman
quote:
I always put him top 5
i do to, but some of the opinions in the above post have very good merit...
quote:
He was the most dominant player of his era.
agreed, but again, it was a weak "era".... however, i think if he could time travel and play in the 80's and 90's he'd still be dominant.... in today's NBA, not sure how he'd really fit.... may be a good player, but the game is VASTLY different from even back in the 80s, much less the 50's and 60's....
Posted on 6/19/16 at 11:21 pm to Make It Rayne
GOAT defender and rebounder. His offensive numbers were good, but not as gaudy as some, so he gets overlooked.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 11:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
he played in an era without many teams so titles are somewhat less valuable he played on a super team his individual accomplishments weren't the best of his era
More teams does not necessarily equal less meaningful titles. More teams could mean talent is more diluted so one player can now dominate. Or maybe not, we won't truly ever know who was the best.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 11:31 pm to ChEgrad
I was just watching some old video of Russell, he was a skinny dude, as they all were. Nobody did any weight training back then.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 11:33 pm to Make It Rayne
Because...
this was the entire league.
this was the entire league.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 11:37 pm to Jim Rockford
He is the GOAT. But as we pull away from his accomplishments we replace the unreplacable. There has only been one Bill Russell and the ignorance of excellence will never diminish his greatness. If you don't recognize you are truly a moron.
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