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Why are so many "Experts" Leaving LeBron out of the MVP conversation?
Posted on 2/5/15 at 8:14 pm
Posted on 2/5/15 at 8:14 pm
When listening to game broadcasts or any NBA talks - LBJ is hardly even mentioned with the top MVP candidates... are people simply overlooking his amazing year because they are expecting him to keep improving?
The most popular picks for MVP thus far have been: Curry, Harden, Davis...
Where does he rank in your MVP candidates? and what does he have to do to cement himself as the #1 choice?
The most popular picks for MVP thus far have been: Curry, Harden, Davis...
Where does he rank in your MVP candidates? and what does he have to do to cement himself as the #1 choice?
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Posted on 2/5/15 at 8:15 pm to EnjoyBoy
People get tired of voting for the same guys.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 8:15 pm to EnjoyBoy
Voter fatigue purely.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 8:16 pm to EnjoyBoy
Because if anyone else averaged 27-8-8, it would be absurd. When LeBron does it, it's what he's supposed to do. It's horseshite but it is what it is
Posted on 2/5/15 at 8:16 pm to EnjoyBoy
MVPs, all stars, hall of fame... All meaningless bullshite.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 8:18 pm to EnjoyBoy
He missed ~10 games. As the season progresses people will warm up to him.
If he finishes the 2nd seed and 26\6\8 he has a pretty good shot. Needs to get his TOs down though.
Harden has been putting up similar #s without Howard and leading them to a better record in a better conference so far. He is more deserving at the moment
If he finishes the 2nd seed and 26\6\8 he has a pretty good shot. Needs to get his TOs down though.
Harden has been putting up similar #s without Howard and leading them to a better record in a better conference so far. He is more deserving at the moment
Posted on 2/5/15 at 8:19 pm to VADawg
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Because if anyone else averaged 27-8-8, it would be absurd. When LeBron does it, it's what he's supposed to do. It's horse shite but it is what it is
This.
It's a shame that greatness can be overlooked so easily...
This post was edited on 2/5/15 at 8:20 pm
Posted on 2/5/15 at 8:22 pm to EnjoyBoy
Because it only really became a discussion in the last week or so. They sucked and then he was hurt. If they played great out of the gate there wouldn't have been voter fatigue IMO, the media is ready to love lebron after the return. If the Cavs finish with the best record from here out and lebron plays like this I bet he wins it.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 8:24 pm to EnjoyBoy
Because many NBA experts don't think he is the most valuable player in the game right now 
Posted on 2/5/15 at 8:29 pm to EnjoyBoy
There are guys right now with beastly seasons.
LeBron would rather NBA titles than MVP titles though
LeBron would rather NBA titles than MVP titles though
Posted on 2/5/15 at 9:05 pm to VADawg
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Because if anyone else averaged 27-8-8, it would be absurd. When LeBron does it, it's what he's supposed to do. It's horse shite but it is what it is
Considering that's not what LeBron is averaging this year, I'm not sure what you are mad about. As for why he's not in the MVP talk this year, it's because he doesn't belong in the MVP discussion this year, plain and simple. You can have a talk about him being the best in the world (Most people recognize that Durant is the better player), but it's clear cut that the top two guys this season have been Curry and Harden followed by Davis and then a sizable gap before anyone else.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 9:05 pm to TheWalrus
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Voter fatigue purely
This.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 9:06 pm to Groot
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You can have a talk about him being the best in the world (Most people recognize that Durant is the better player)
You're an idiot.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 9:07 pm to Dr. Shultz
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He missed ~10 games. As the season progresses people will warm up to him.
If he finishes the 2nd seed and 26\6\8 he has a pretty good shot. Needs to get his TOs down though.
Harden has been putting up similar #s without Howard and leading them to a better record in a better conference so far. He is more deserving at the moment
This is all spot-on.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 9:07 pm to Groot
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Most people recognize that Durant is the better player),
And with that GamecockAlum outed himself.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 9:08 pm to EnjoyBoy
Win Shares:
1. James Harden-HOU 10.3
2. Anthony Davis-NOP 9.7
3. Stephen Curry-GSW 9.5
4. Chris Paul-LAC 8.8
5. Jimmy Butler-CHI 8.0
6. Tyson Chandler-DAL 7.6
7. DeAndre Jordan-LAC 7.3
8. Damian Lillard-POR 7.1
9. Marc Gasol-MEM 6.8
10. Blake Griffin-LAC 6.6
11. Kyrie Irving-CLE 6.2
12. Klay Thompson-GSW 6.1
13. Al Horford-ATL 6.0
14. Paul Millsap-ATL 6.0
15. Kyle Lowry-TOR 6.0
16. LeBron James-CLE 6.0
17. Pau Gasol-CHI 5.9
18. Jeff Teague-ATL 5.9
19. John Wall-WAS 5.8
20. Kyle Korver-ATL 5.7
LINK
Everything that contributes to this list contributes to the compiled reason that James is not in the MVP conversation.
1. James Harden-HOU 10.3
2. Anthony Davis-NOP 9.7
3. Stephen Curry-GSW 9.5
4. Chris Paul-LAC 8.8
5. Jimmy Butler-CHI 8.0
6. Tyson Chandler-DAL 7.6
7. DeAndre Jordan-LAC 7.3
8. Damian Lillard-POR 7.1
9. Marc Gasol-MEM 6.8
10. Blake Griffin-LAC 6.6
11. Kyrie Irving-CLE 6.2
12. Klay Thompson-GSW 6.1
13. Al Horford-ATL 6.0
14. Paul Millsap-ATL 6.0
15. Kyle Lowry-TOR 6.0
16. LeBron James-CLE 6.0
17. Pau Gasol-CHI 5.9
18. Jeff Teague-ATL 5.9
19. John Wall-WAS 5.8
20. Kyle Korver-ATL 5.7
LINK
Everything that contributes to this list contributes to the compiled reason that James is not in the MVP conversation.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 9:08 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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Needs to get his TOs down though
This is true, also.
He has had a couple of games this year with upwards of 7-8 TO's. No way that should happen.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 9:11 pm to EnjoyBoy
Peanut butter and jealous
Posted on 2/5/15 at 9:16 pm to TheWalrus
quote:Must also be Lebron fatigue; he's only played in 80% of this season's games. Considering that there are players who have missed nearly no games and who have gleaned per-game stats that are nearly as impressive as his, it should come as no surprise that he isn't at the top of the list at this point.
Voter fatigue purely.
That said, I consider myself a casual James fan and expect and hope for him to perform greatly in the remaining 32 games and re-insert his name legitimately into the MVP conversation.
Posted on 2/5/15 at 9:17 pm to AUTigermitch1995
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You're an idiot.
Kevin Durant won MVP last year by a huge margin, had the higher PER and more win shares last year and has a higher PER this year and more Win Shares per 48 as well.
So statistically he's better and he passes the eyeball test with MVP voters.
So who's the idiot again?
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