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re: Who wouldve won more titles-Duncan & Kobe or Shaq and T-Mac?(as duos)
Posted on 7/23/15 at 7:49 am to Boomshockalocka
Posted on 7/23/15 at 7:49 am to Boomshockalocka
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I'm pretty sure we agree on my irl hoops acumen too after those IRL beat downs I put on you.
your game be like
I must admit, you have one heck of a step back jumper
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Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:39 am to RonBurgundy
I don't want to, but I have to pick Kobe/Duncan.
That would be a tough duo to stop.
That would be a tough duo to stop.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:47 am to EyeoftheEldrick12
Prime years goes to Shaq/TMac. TMac would have been better with an all time great to bring him along. He wouldn't have challenged Shaq as Alpha which would have been great for chemistry.
Most titles to Kobe/Duncan. They were really good for a very long time. Easy answer to OP's question.
Most titles to Kobe/Duncan. They were really good for a very long time. Easy answer to OP's question.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 8:48 am to RonBurgundy
Well 3 of those guys are too ten(ish) players in nba history and one doesnt sniff that. So probably kobe and duncan. But Shaq in his prime is the best of the four and makes it close. If it were Shaq and scotty pippen or someone like that i would go with the shaq duo.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 9:09 am to Matisyeezy
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When you're the only offensive player on your team you're going to shoot more and take lower percentage shots.
Im not saying he had a ton of help in ORL. But just because he shoots a lot doesn't mean he has to be inefficient. They were low percentage shots, yes. He wasn't a great shooter, and he loved to take jump shots, which was crazy for a man his size. Black hole. The fact that he never won anything supports that.
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What were Kobe's stats circa 2008ish? I'm on my way to bed and too lazy to look.
Kobe career TS .553
Tmac .519
This post was edited on 7/23/15 at 9:11 am
Posted on 7/23/15 at 9:18 am to Boomshockalocka
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I'm pretty sure we agree on my irl hoops acumen too after those IRL beat downs I put on you.
How tall are you? I bet I could take you 1 on 1.
This post was edited on 7/23/15 at 9:19 am
Posted on 7/23/15 at 9:20 am to Lester Earl
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Kobe career TS .553
Tmac .519
He didn't ask for career shooting percentages. Everybody concedes Kobe's play was better for longer. Prime TMAC was a more efficient player than prime Kobe.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 9:25 am to PrimeTime Money
Kobe and Duncan by a mile.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 9:29 am to TheSexecutioner
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Prime TMAC was a more efficient player than prime Kobe.
lol
at least look at the numbers
Posted on 7/23/15 at 9:48 am to TheSexecutioner
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How tall are you? I bet I could take you 1 on 1
Seriously SERIOUSLY doubt it.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 10:38 am to RonBurgundy
It's threads like this that leave no doubt about being in the dog days of summer 
Posted on 7/23/15 at 11:02 am to PrimeTime Money
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Kobe and McGrady are very similar players at their peaks.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 11:24 am to Lester Earl
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lol
at least look at the numbers
ok. Best seasons:
T Mac 02/03 - 32.1 points on 24.2 shots and 9.7 FTA. 5.5 AST, 2.6 TO
Bryant 05/06 - 35.4 oints on 27.2 shots and 10.2 FTA. 4.5 AST, 3.1 TO
So Bryant scored 3.3 more points per game on 3 extra shots, half a free throw, and half a turnover more. McGrady also had an extra rebound per game. .4 more blocks, and only .1 less steals.
PER stands for Player Efficiency Rating. TMAC's was 30.27, highest ever by a player not named Wilt, Lebron, MJ, AD, David Robinson, Wade or Shaq. Kobe's best PER was 27.97, trailing a plethora of players including Russel Westbrook last year.
The numbers are conclusive. TMAC was more efficient in his prime.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 11:25 am to Boomshockalocka
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Seriously SERIOUSLY doubt it.
what level ball did you play? How tall are you?
This post was edited on 7/23/15 at 11:26 am
Posted on 7/23/15 at 11:25 am to RonBurgundy
Did T-Mac play any defense? I don't recall him playing good defense, but someone on here might be able to set me straight.
I vote Kobe/Duncan.
I vote Kobe/Duncan.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:11 pm to Lester Earl
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Im not saying he had a ton of help in ORL. But just because he shoots a lot doesn't mean he has to be inefficient. They were low percentage shots, yes. He wasn't a great shooter, and he loved to take jump shots, which was crazy for a man his size. Black hole. The fact that he never won anything supports that.
Do you even know what the term means in reference to basketball? quote:
Kobe career TS .553
Tmac .519
Exhibit J
This post was edited on 7/23/15 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:40 pm to TheSexecutioner
quote:
ok. Best seasons:
T Mac 02/03 - 32.1 points on 24.2 shots and 9.7 FTA. 5.5 AST, 2.6 TO
Bryant 05/06 - 35.4 oints on 27.2 shots and 10.2 FTA. 4.5 AST, 3.1 TO
So Bryant scored 3.3 more points per game on 3 extra shots, half a free throw, and half a turnover more. McGrady also had an extra rebound per game. .4 more blocks, and only .1 less steals.
PER stands for Player Efficiency Rating. TMAC's was 30.27, highest ever by a player not named Wilt, Lebron, MJ, AD, David Robinson, Wade or Shaq. Kobe's best PER was 27.97, trailing a plethora of players including Russel Westbrook last year.
The numbers are conclusive. TMAC was more efficient in his prime.
Wait, so let me get this straight, you cherry picked 1 season from each and labeled that their prime?
seriously guy?
Posted on 7/23/15 at 1:45 pm to TheSexecutioner
You first be my guest.
Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:17 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Kobe and McGrady are very similar players at their peaks.
2001-2008
Player A (reg. season): 26.3 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 5.5 apg, 44-34-75%, 21.8 FGA, 7.4 FTA, 24.2 PER, 32.7 usage
Player B (reg. season): 29.0 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 5.3 apg, 45-34-84%, 21.9 FGA, 9.0 FTA, 25.0 PER, 32.6 usage
Playoffs:
Player A: 28.4 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 5.3 apg, 43.4 mpg, 45-33-81%, 22.6 FGA, 8.3 FTA, 22.5 PER, 31.1 usage
Player B: 29.5 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 6.5 apg, 42.6 mpg, 43-30-75%, 24.5 FGA, 9.1 FTA, 25.4 PER, 35.3 usage
This post was edited on 7/23/15 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 7/23/15 at 2:22 pm to RonBurgundy
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Here’s a complete list of every teammate who started a playoff game with Tracy McGrady during his aforementioned 2001-08 peak …
Darrell Armstrong (three years), Bo Outlaw, Andrew DeClercq (two years), Mike Miller (two years), Pat Garrity (two years), Horace Grant (36 at the time), Monty Williams, Jacque Vaughn, Gordan Giricek, Drew Gooden, Yao Ming (two years), David Wesley, Bob Sura, Ryan Bowen, Scott Padgett, Shane Battier (two years), Rafer Alston (two years), Chuck Hayes, Luis Scola, Dikembe Mutombo (somewhere between age 40 and 52 at the time), and Bobby Jackson.
This post was edited on 7/23/15 at 2:23 pm
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