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Which is most important--good coaching or talented football players?
Posted on 9/20/12 at 10:43 am
Posted on 9/20/12 at 10:43 am
I realize the championship teams have lots of both in most cases. But many years ago, I heard the old expression, "A great QB can make a mediocre coach look very good." I wonder if they were referring to Brett Favre in his college days, making Curley Hallman look like a much better coach than he turned out to be. I believe this is the case with a certain West Texas high school team this season, who finished 0-10 last year, but has won its first 3 games, with a highly regarded sophomore starting QB that I think should have been the varsity starter last season. But please, share your views on this and let me know.
This post was edited on 9/20/12 at 10:44 am
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Posted on 9/20/12 at 10:47 am to rjokerlsu
after watching Auburn the Saints and past experiences with team I like or follow it is clearly:
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good coaching
Posted on 9/20/12 at 10:49 am to rjokerlsu
Coaching the turn around for wvu from bill stewart to holgs with the same players is nuts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 10:49 am to stapuffmarshy
An average coach can get by with skilled players, but a good coach will get the most out of average players.
Pick your poision.
Pick your poision.
Posted on 9/20/12 at 10:50 am to rjokerlsu
Coaching.
Posted on 9/20/12 at 10:52 am to LSUSOBEAST1
Depends: College is about talent first then coaching second. Gene Chizik won a National Title on talent and Les Miles is a great recruiter but average at best coach.
NFL is about coaching and having a QB.
NFL is about coaching and having a QB.
Posted on 9/20/12 at 10:52 am to LSUSOBEAST1
If 1 is terrible the other is useless, but given the choice players make plays.
Posted on 9/20/12 at 10:55 am to RedHawk
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Les Miles is a great recruiter but average at best coach.
Oh god here we fricking go
Posted on 9/20/12 at 10:55 am to Mr Gardoki
Well Nick Saban lost to ULM and UAB before he had time to get better players on his team soo...
Posted on 9/20/12 at 10:56 am to rjokerlsu
I would rather have talented players. Coaching is obviously very important but without talent, the coach is screwed.
Posted on 9/20/12 at 11:00 am to LSUSOBEAST1
College football is all about how good you can recruit, pro football is pure coaching because everyone is damn good. And yes, Leslie Miles is an average coach at best, but he does a good job of letting LSU sell itself in terms of recruiting. A monkey could be taught to recruit studs to LSU 
Posted on 9/20/12 at 11:01 am to 225bred
It's tough to say because there are so many factors like how coaches develop players. Particularly in college.
For example, Auburn has had great recruiting classes but is terrible because the players aren't being developed and the program has no direction, so that part of the argument lends toward the coaching.
For example, Auburn has had great recruiting classes but is terrible because the players aren't being developed and the program has no direction, so that part of the argument lends toward the coaching.
Posted on 9/20/12 at 11:03 am to 225bred
You're just wrong. LSU's players love miles and love playing for him. He's a great recruiter.
Posted on 9/20/12 at 11:10 am to 225bred
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And yes, Leslie Miles is an average coach at best
I'm sure a 5-2 bowl record and 2 NC appearances is all because of the talent he has. He obviously is a mediocre coach. A combined bowl game score of 215-108 is very average.
GTFO, that shite doesn't work anymore
This post was edited on 9/20/12 at 11:11 am
Posted on 9/20/12 at 11:20 am to rjokerlsu
If you are ranking them, then talent is #1. That's not to say coaching isnt important, it is, but you still need talent.
Posted on 9/20/12 at 11:23 am to LSUSOBEAST1
Hahaha chalk up 2007 to Sabans MNC tally, LSU won that year despite Miles, losing at home to 2 shitty teams? Give me a break. Also, what good bowl wins does LSU have? Beat a pisspoor ND, GT, and Miami, a decent but outclassed Texas AM and then got asses handed to them by Bama, not to mention losing to a bad Pedo State team. And I never said LSU players don't like playing for miles, he's a players coach through and through.
This post was edited on 9/20/12 at 11:26 am
Posted on 9/20/12 at 11:25 am to rjokerlsu
Players, easily.
Players win all the time with coaches who aren't regarded as good coaches,
How often does the great coach take shite talent to a title? Never.
Players win all the time with coaches who aren't regarded as good coaches,
How often does the great coach take shite talent to a title? Never.
Posted on 9/20/12 at 11:25 am to rjokerlsu
Obviously both are very important but IMO a team will go farther (probably 9-3 or so) with great players and mediocre coaching. A great coach with so so players can easily lose 5 games.
Posted on 9/20/12 at 11:26 am to rjokerlsu
Larry Coker was one bad call away from winning back to back national championships.
Posted on 9/20/12 at 11:26 am to 225bred
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And yes, Leslie Miles is an average coach at best
He's on pace to become the winningest coach in LSU history
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