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which baseball franchise is in the worst condition?
Posted on 6/22/15 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 6/22/15 at 3:36 pm
Phillies or Diamondbacks?
Diamondbacks just traded a former 1st round pick in order to save 10m from Arroyo and today demoted Addison Reed and eating his 4.9m.
Phillies have the contracts of Ryan Howard and Chase Utley hurting them. They don't appear to have a minor league position player ready to come up and help the team (although Crawford should be a September call up.) The team itself is old everywhere, but they do have the biggest trading chip in Cole Hammels.
Prior to the season the Diamondbacks ranked 6th (11th by minorleagueball.com) best farm system (this is before they traded their 5th best prospect) and the Phillies ranked 21st (20th by minorleagueball.com.)
which club puts together a winning year first, or which club is in the better position to turn it around?
Diamondbacks just traded a former 1st round pick in order to save 10m from Arroyo and today demoted Addison Reed and eating his 4.9m.
Phillies have the contracts of Ryan Howard and Chase Utley hurting them. They don't appear to have a minor league position player ready to come up and help the team (although Crawford should be a September call up.) The team itself is old everywhere, but they do have the biggest trading chip in Cole Hammels.
Prior to the season the Diamondbacks ranked 6th (11th by minorleagueball.com) best farm system (this is before they traded their 5th best prospect) and the Phillies ranked 21st (20th by minorleagueball.com.)
which club puts together a winning year first, or which club is in the better position to turn it around?
This post was edited on 6/22/15 at 4:08 pm
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 3:42 pm to tduecen
Phillies
DBacks have Goldschmidt and AJ Pollack, both are top 20 MLB in WAR
Goldy is arguably the best hitter in baseball. They arent in terrible shape. They are only 1 game under .500
Tomas hasnt been bad, and they have some good young arms(bradley, Shipley, blair, ray, De la rosa, Lopez)
DBacks have Goldschmidt and AJ Pollack, both are top 20 MLB in WAR
Goldy is arguably the best hitter in baseball. They arent in terrible shape. They are only 1 game under .500
Tomas hasnt been bad, and they have some good young arms(bradley, Shipley, blair, ray, De la rosa, Lopez)
Posted on 6/22/15 at 3:42 pm to tduecen
Dbacks are in better shape.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 3:43 pm to tduecen
You want to say dbacks because of how the division is shaping up to be over the upcoming years with the dodgers, but the answer is the Phillies. Not to mention the dbacks have goldy
This post was edited on 6/22/15 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 6/22/15 at 3:43 pm to tduecen
DBacks.
Philly always give support to their teams....I'd imagine they are buying into a "rebuild" phase.
Can't say the same for an Arizona market.
Philly always give support to their teams....I'd imagine they are buying into a "rebuild" phase.
Can't say the same for an Arizona market.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 3:46 pm to tduecen
Phillies. That could change though if Philly has a leadership change and the Dbacks keep making terrible deals
Posted on 6/22/15 at 3:48 pm to tduecen
should swap ARI wil Milwaukee.
what a cluster frick there. old team with average to below farm system. Zero pitching all together.
what a cluster frick there. old team with average to below farm system. Zero pitching all together.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 3:48 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Also if someone caves and gives the Phillies everything for Cole
Posted on 6/22/15 at 3:48 pm to tduecen
Phillies
I can't believe Amaro still has a job
I can't believe Amaro still has a job
Posted on 6/22/15 at 3:49 pm to WestCoastAg
Rockies. The entire organization is a dumpster fire from ownership to farm system, strongest flames coming from ownership.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 3:50 pm to tduecen
Phillies
Diamondbacks made more good moves than bad and their farm consistently churns out major league talent, despite the lack of hype.
Diamondbacks made more good moves than bad and their farm consistently churns out major league talent, despite the lack of hype.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 3:52 pm to ColoradoAg03
Braves
Posted on 6/22/15 at 3:52 pm to tduecen
Marlins
Posted on 6/22/15 at 3:52 pm to tduecen
PHI
Also Seattle and Oakland are trending down IMO, but not Philly level. Mid-20's farm systems according to BA and not going anywhere in the bigs.
Also Seattle and Oakland are trending down IMO, but not Philly level. Mid-20's farm systems according to BA and not going anywhere in the bigs.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 3:55 pm to ColoradoAg03
quote:ranked 8th best farm system at the start of the year
from ownership to farm system
Plus they have Tulo, CarGo, DJ, Nolan, and Blackmon so they have some pieces they could trade and enough pieces to be competitive.
Pitching is an issue, but that has always been an issue.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 4:06 pm to tduecen
Cole hammel? Really?
Posted on 6/22/15 at 4:07 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
Hes the highest deadline trading asset
Posted on 6/22/15 at 4:08 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
Not really.....
Posted on 6/22/15 at 4:09 pm to tduecen
Phillies are the Astros circa 2011. They're going to be absolutely atrocious for the next two or three years. But I will say this about them. The Phillies are going to have all their bad contracts cleared off the books after next year. With the right GM, they can rebuild their team relatively quickly.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 4:11 pm to tduecen
D'backs aren't that bad, even though they've been trading away good players for nothing for years.
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