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re: What would Usain Bolt's 40 yard dash time be?
Posted on 2/24/12 at 7:47 am to trackfan
Posted on 2/24/12 at 7:47 am to trackfan
This is the reason I was bringing up Trindon earlier. I know in a 100m he would get destroyed, but he would have to be close to Bolt after 40 yards if not leading. I don't know who would win, but there is no way anyone would make Trindon look stupid in such a short distance. He might get beat, but it would be close.
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Posted on 2/24/12 at 7:49 am to trackfan
So few people have even ran 4.2 fortys, I wouldn't say running a 4.19 is impossible but I would say I'd bet against it no matter who is trying to do it.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 8:33 am to Palm Beach Tiger
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So few people have even ran 4.2 fortys, I wouldn't say running a 4.19 is impossible but I would say I'd bet against it no matter who is trying to do it.
Jacoby Ford is a better starter than Trindon as evidenced by beating him on multiple occasions in the 60 meters in 2009, including at the NCAA Indoor Championships. He backed this up by running 4.28 (fastest time in 2010) at the combine to Trindon's 4.34 (2nd fastest). The bottom line is that Chris Johnson's 4.24 is impressive, even by world-class track standards. But just because Johnson is world-class over the first 36.5 meters doesn't mean he's world-class over the last 63.5 meters, especially without an abundance of the overdistance training that is a staple for world-class track athletes. FYI, most of the top world-class 100 meter sprinters can run a descent 400 (sub-46) when they're in mid-season form. I doubt you can find a single NFL player who can run sub-48 when in mid-season form.
By the way, Trindon had better top end than Ford and was faster than him throughout the season at 100 meters.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 9:05 am to trackfan
Has anyone mentioned the fact that when Johnson ran it was on a totally different track than Holiday and Ford? I watched something about it. Basically after CJ's year, they replaced the track and it has produced collectively slower times.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 9:17 am to Rickdaddy4188
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That is a myth. World class sprinters. Can run in the 4.1 range. Prob only 1-2% of man kind can run an electric 4.30
1-2%????
Posted on 2/24/12 at 9:20 am to Shoulderchoke
Running surface does make a difference in track and I assume it's the same with the different artificial football turfs. In track, they have a test for measuring how fast a track is, and if it's too fast, the IAAF will refuse to recognize any times run on it.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 9:22 am to lsu480
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1-2%????
I'm glad someone said something, Dude must be shitty at math or thinks 140,000,000 people can run 4.3
I think he meant more like .00000001-.00000002%
Posted on 2/24/12 at 9:23 am to lsu480
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1-2%????
Probably more like 0.1%, 0.01% or 0.001%.
This post was edited on 2/24/12 at 9:26 am
Posted on 2/24/12 at 9:37 am to trackfan
I don't know if even 1000 people in the world can run a 4.3.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 9:49 am to lsu480
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I don't know if even 1000 people in the world can run a 4.3.
That's probably a good guess since only trained athletes in their prime can do this. However, I'll bet there tens of thousands of people who have (18-30 year old males), will have (under 18 males) or have had (over 30 males) the potential to run 4.3.
Posted on 2/24/12 at 10:18 am to trackfan
Sure "lots" of people have the potential to run that fast but I would guess the number of people that could run a 4.3 flat is under 1000. The NFL probably has less than 5 who can right now.
Posted on 2/26/12 at 8:57 am to iPadThai
RGIII just lit it up, running an unofficial 4.38 after weighing in at 223 pounds.
Posted on 8/2/12 at 8:15 pm to barry
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seriously, these guys spend years developing their bodies and form to be perfect runners. The guys spend a few months before the combine.
Explain why Justin Gatlin ran a 4.45 and a 4.42 at the Titans NFL pro day.
Usain bolt would NOT run a sub 4 40 yd dash. I'm not necessarily sure he would beat Chris Johnson's time. This isn't speculation; there are articles on this.
Posted on 8/2/12 at 8:28 pm to Palm Beach Tiger
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I'd bet Holliday would be tough for Bolt to beat in a 40 yard dash
I'm sorry but
Posted on 8/2/12 at 8:31 pm to bobbyray21
People always assume sprinters can easily outrun even the fastest football players. I'm guessing if you raced Chris Johnson and Usain Bolt beside each other for 40 yards or so the difference would be surprisingly minimal. A guy like Johnson or some of the other fast NFL'ers could very well have been track stars had football careers not worked out. 4.3 is ridiculously fast. Nobody can run much faster than that.
Posted on 8/2/12 at 8:36 pm to trackfan
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The bottom line is that Chris Johnson's 4.24 is impressive, even by world-class track standards. But just because Johnson is world-class over the first 36.5 meters doesn't mean he's world-class over the last 63.5 meters, especially without an abundance of the overdistance training that is a staple for world-class track athletes. FYI, most of the top world-class 100 meter sprinters can run a descent 400 (sub-46) when they're in mid-season form. I doubt you can find a single NFL player who can run sub-48 when in mid-season form
I agree with all of this.
Posted on 8/2/12 at 8:41 pm to bobbyray21
So when Bolt ran 9.58 his splits went like this
1.85
1.02
.91
.87 * .65 == .5655
Add these together, you get:
4.3455
And this is fair to compare to a 40 yd dash time at the combine in that Bolt's .165 reaction time is taken out of the calculation (at the combine the timing starts when they move, in an olympic race the time starts off the gun, so you exclude the reaction time to get an equivalent measure).
EDIT: as a rough way to account for the fact that he was still accelerating at 36.5 meters, we can half his 30-40 split and his 40-50 split, and use that as his 30-40 split. This gives us .559 for the last 6.5 meters. This takes it down to a:
4.339
1.85
1.02
.91
.87 * .65 == .5655
Add these together, you get:
4.3455
And this is fair to compare to a 40 yd dash time at the combine in that Bolt's .165 reaction time is taken out of the calculation (at the combine the timing starts when they move, in an olympic race the time starts off the gun, so you exclude the reaction time to get an equivalent measure).
EDIT: as a rough way to account for the fact that he was still accelerating at 36.5 meters, we can half his 30-40 split and his 40-50 split, and use that as his 30-40 split. This gives us .559 for the last 6.5 meters. This takes it down to a:
4.339
This post was edited on 8/2/12 at 8:46 pm
Posted on 8/2/12 at 8:48 pm to bobbyray21
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as a rough way to account for the fact that he was still accelerating at 36.5 meters, we can half his 30-40 split and his 40-50 split, and use that as his 30-40 split. This gives us .559 for the last 6.5 meters. This takes it down to a:
4.339
Good work, well researched
Posted on 8/2/12 at 8:51 pm to Hat Tricks
absolutely holliday would be tough for bolt to beat in 40 meter dash. anyone who thinks otherwise is ignorant
you guys are also forgetting to factor in the fact that track sprinters get off using blocks.
bolt is beatable under50 meters.
with the exception of his 4.58 race (faster sprint ever) he consistently is neck and neck with other sprinters or even behind within the first 40 meters
you guys are also forgetting to factor in the fact that track sprinters get off using blocks.
bolt is beatable under50 meters.
with the exception of his 4.58 race (faster sprint ever) he consistently is neck and neck with other sprinters or even behind within the first 40 meters
Posted on 8/2/12 at 9:27 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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To the person who mentioned Trindon Holliday, Holliday is not in the same stratosphere as Bolt. Holliday has a PR of 9.95 the last time I checked, while Bolt ran a 9.59. Bolt is a fricking freak. The second fastest person in the world is either Tyson Gay or Asafa Powell, not some football player.
But but but, Trindon went to LSU
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