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What will be Chris Paul's legacy?
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:37 am
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:37 am
If he gets knocked out, again, in the first round where does he rank in PG rankings and all time player ratings?
Thru 9 Years Win Shares (Best to Worst)
Player Sim 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
Chris Paul 18.3 17.8 13.9 13.9 12.7 12.2 10.4 8.8 7.3
Jerry West 93.3 17.1 16.7 15.2 14.0 12.9 11.7 10.8 9.6 8.1
Magic Johnson 88.5 16.1 15.9 12.9 12.7 12.5 12.1 10.9 10.5 10.2
Oscar Robertson 85.0 20.6 17.4 17.0 16.9 16.8 15.6 13.2 12.9 12.3
John Stockton 83.8 15.6 14.4 14.1 14.0 13.4 13.2 10.6 6.7 5.9
Walt Frazier 82.8 15.6 15.0 14.5 13.0 12.7 10.9 10.8 6.8 6.1
Reggie Miller 75.2 12.5 12.3 12.1 11.7 11.4 11.3 11.0 10.3 6.5
Dwyane Wade 74.6 14.7 14.4 13.0 12.8 11.0 9.6 8.8 7.7 4.6
Kobe Bryant 72.5 15.3 14.9 12.7 11.3 10.7 10.6 8.1 6.3 5.2
Michael Jordan 72.3 21.2 20.3 19.8 19.0 17.7 17.2 16.9 14.0 2.3
Clyde Drexler 69.8 13.2 12.8 12.6 12.4 11.6 10.3 7.5 6.7 6.0
Points Per Game
2008-09 NBA 22.8 (7)
Career NBA 18.7 (81)
Career 18.7 (91)
Assists
2005-06 NBA 611 (5)
2006-07 NBA 569 (6)
2007-08 NBA 925 (1)
2008-09 NBA 861 (1)
2009-10 NBA 480 (9)
2010-11 NBA 782 (2)
2011-12 NBA 543 (3)
2012-13 NBA 678 (2)
2013-14 NBA 663 (4)
2014-15 NBA 838 (1)
Active 6950 (2)
Career NBA 6950 (16)
Career 6950 (16)
Assists Per Game
2005-06 NBA 7.8 (7)
2006-07 NBA 8.9 (4)
2007-08 NBA 11.6 (1)
2008-09 NBA 11.0 (1)
2009-10 NBA 10.7 (2)
2010-11 NBA 9.8 (4)
2011-12 NBA 9.1 (3)
2012-13 NBA 9.7 (2)
2013-14 NBA 10.7 (1)
2014-15 NBA 10.2 (1)
Active 9.9 (1)
Career NBA 9.9 (3)
Career 9.9 (3)
Assist Pct
2005-06 NBA 38.2 (6)
2006-07 NBA 41.3 (5)
2007-08 NBA 52.2 (1)
2008-09 NBA 54.5 (1)
2009-10 NBA 45.4 (2)
2010-11 NBA 45.8 (4)
2011-12 NBA 43.8 (5)
2012-13 NBA 46.5 (1)
2013-14 NBA 48.9 (1)
2014-15 NBA 47.4 (1)
Active 46.6 (1)
Career NBA 46.6 (2)
Career 46.6 (2)
Thru 9 Years Win Shares (Best to Worst)
Player Sim 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
Chris Paul 18.3 17.8 13.9 13.9 12.7 12.2 10.4 8.8 7.3
Jerry West 93.3 17.1 16.7 15.2 14.0 12.9 11.7 10.8 9.6 8.1
Magic Johnson 88.5 16.1 15.9 12.9 12.7 12.5 12.1 10.9 10.5 10.2
Oscar Robertson 85.0 20.6 17.4 17.0 16.9 16.8 15.6 13.2 12.9 12.3
John Stockton 83.8 15.6 14.4 14.1 14.0 13.4 13.2 10.6 6.7 5.9
Walt Frazier 82.8 15.6 15.0 14.5 13.0 12.7 10.9 10.8 6.8 6.1
Reggie Miller 75.2 12.5 12.3 12.1 11.7 11.4 11.3 11.0 10.3 6.5
Dwyane Wade 74.6 14.7 14.4 13.0 12.8 11.0 9.6 8.8 7.7 4.6
Kobe Bryant 72.5 15.3 14.9 12.7 11.3 10.7 10.6 8.1 6.3 5.2
Michael Jordan 72.3 21.2 20.3 19.8 19.0 17.7 17.2 16.9 14.0 2.3
Clyde Drexler 69.8 13.2 12.8 12.6 12.4 11.6 10.3 7.5 6.7 6.0
Points Per Game
2008-09 NBA 22.8 (7)
Career NBA 18.7 (81)
Career 18.7 (91)
Assists
2005-06 NBA 611 (5)
2006-07 NBA 569 (6)
2007-08 NBA 925 (1)
2008-09 NBA 861 (1)
2009-10 NBA 480 (9)
2010-11 NBA 782 (2)
2011-12 NBA 543 (3)
2012-13 NBA 678 (2)
2013-14 NBA 663 (4)
2014-15 NBA 838 (1)
Active 6950 (2)
Career NBA 6950 (16)
Career 6950 (16)
Assists Per Game
2005-06 NBA 7.8 (7)
2006-07 NBA 8.9 (4)
2007-08 NBA 11.6 (1)
2008-09 NBA 11.0 (1)
2009-10 NBA 10.7 (2)
2010-11 NBA 9.8 (4)
2011-12 NBA 9.1 (3)
2012-13 NBA 9.7 (2)
2013-14 NBA 10.7 (1)
2014-15 NBA 10.2 (1)
Active 9.9 (1)
Career NBA 9.9 (3)
Career 9.9 (3)
Assist Pct
2005-06 NBA 38.2 (6)
2006-07 NBA 41.3 (5)
2007-08 NBA 52.2 (1)
2008-09 NBA 54.5 (1)
2009-10 NBA 45.4 (2)
2010-11 NBA 45.8 (4)
2011-12 NBA 43.8 (5)
2012-13 NBA 46.5 (1)
2013-14 NBA 48.9 (1)
2014-15 NBA 47.4 (1)
Active 46.6 (1)
Career NBA 46.6 (2)
Career 46.6 (2)
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 11:38 am
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Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:38 am to RedRifle
quote:Hmmm. Interesting.
Thru 9 Years Win Shares (Best to Worst)
Player Sim 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
Chris Paul 18.3 17.8 13.9 13.9 12.7 12.2 10.4 8.8 7.3
Jerry West 93.3 17.1 16.7 15.2 14.0 12.9 11.7 10.8 9.6 8.1
Magic Johnson 88.5 16.1 15.9 12.9 12.7 12.5 12.1 10.9 10.5 10.2
Oscar Robertson 85.0 20.6 17.4 17.0 16.9 16.8 15.6 13.2 12.9 12.3
John Stockton 83.8 15.6 14.4 14.1 14.0 13.4 13.2 10.6 6.7 5.9
Walt Frazier 82.8 15.6 15.0 14.5 13.0 12.7 10.9 10.8 6.8 6.1
Reggie Miller 75.2 12.5 12.3 12.1 11.7 11.4 11.3 11.0 10.3 6.5
Dwyane Wade 74.6 14.7 14.4 13.0 12.8 11.0 9.6 8.8 7.7 4.6
Kobe Bryant 72.5 15.3 14.9 12.7 11.3 10.7 10.6 8.1 6.3 5.2
Michael Jordan 72.3 21.2 20.3 19.8 19.0 17.7 17.2 16.9 14.0 2.3
Clyde Drexler 69.8 13.2 12.8 12.6 12.4 11.6 10.3 7.5 6.7 6.0
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:42 am to RedRifle
Need more assists stats to make a determination.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:58 am to RedRifle
quote:
Reggie Miller Dwyane Wade Kobe Bryant Michael Jordan Clyde Drexler
Didn't think they were point guards
Posted on 4/29/15 at 11:04 am to RedRifle
Posted on 4/29/15 at 11:07 am to TigerintheNO
quote:
Didn't think they were point guards
I think that was the reference to all time player ratings.
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 11:08 am
Posted on 4/29/15 at 11:14 am to RedRifle
His legacy= A bitch and a baby who has elite talent but the temperament of a toddler.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 11:20 am to RedRifle
As Robert Horry has shown us, it's all about the rings.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 11:22 am to RedRifle
He's a first ballot flopping HOFer for sure.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 11:22 am to 33inNC
quote:
His legacy= A bitch and a baby who has elite talent but the temperament of a toddler.
100% accurate.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 11:26 am to RedRifle
quote:
Player Sim 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
Chris Paul 18.3 17.8 13.9 13.9 12.7 12.2 10.4 8.8 7.3
Jerry West 93.3 17.1 16.7 15.2 14.0 12.9 11.7 10.8 9.6 8.1
Magic Johnson 88.5 16.1 15.9 12.9 12.7 12.5 12.1 10.9 10.5 10.2
Oscar Robertson 85.0 20.6 17.4 17.0 16.9 16.8 15.6 13.2 12.9 12.3
John Stockton 83.8 15.6 14.4 14.1 14.0 13.4 13.2 10.6 6.7 5.9
Walt Frazier 82.8 15.6 15.0 14.5 13.0 12.7 10.9 10.8 6.8 6.1
Reggie Miller 75.2 12.5 12.3 12.1 11.7 11.4 11.3 11.0 10.3 6.5
Dwyane Wade 74.6 14.7 14.4 13.0 12.8 11.0 9.6 8.8 7.7 4.6
Kobe Bryant 72.5 15.3 14.9 12.7 11.3 10.7 10.6 8.1 6.3 5.2
Michael Jordan 72.3 21.2 20.3 19.8 19.0 17.7 17.2 16.9 14.0 2.3
Clyde Drexler 69.8 13.2 12.8 12.6 12.4 11.6 10.3 7.5 6.7 6.0
the answer is clear
Posted on 4/29/15 at 11:28 am to SnoopALoop
I have no problem putting him as a top 10 PG of all time. My issue is that he has never been THE MAN on a team who he dragged to the finals.
As much as people give Dwight crap, and rightfully so, he was the man on the Magic who made the finals (lost but made it to the finals)
So for now, he can't go too much higher in my mind without winning a title, or at least getting to a couple of WCFs
As much as people give Dwight crap, and rightfully so, he was the man on the Magic who made the finals (lost but made it to the finals)
So for now, he can't go too much higher in my mind without winning a title, or at least getting to a couple of WCFs
Posted on 4/29/15 at 11:29 am to TheChosenOne
quote:
He's a first ballot flopping HOFer for sure.
Hall of Fame Probability
Active 0.999
Career 0.999
Rank Player HoF Prob
1. Kobe Bryant 1.0000
2. Tim Duncan 1.0000
3. Kevin Garnett 1.0000
4. LeBron James 1.0000
5. Dirk Nowitzki 1.0000
6. Dwyane Wade 0.9999
7. Chris Paul 0.9995
8. Ray Allen 0.9987
9. Paul Pierce 0.9974
10. Dwight Howard 0.9893
11. Chris Bosh 0.9864
12. Kevin Durant 0.9821
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 11:33 am
Posted on 4/29/15 at 11:57 am to RedRifle
quote:
What will be Chris Paul's legacy?
Great talent
Flopper
Not much of a leader
Quitter
Posted on 4/29/15 at 11:58 am to Galactic Inquisitor
Oh, and I forgot a very important part:
Nut-puncher
Nut-puncher
Posted on 4/29/15 at 12:14 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
a blame the other guy type of player.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 12:22 pm to RedRifle
He'll be the 2nd best PG ever imo.
Only one other has ever sustained a higher level of play.
Only one other has ever sustained a higher level of play.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 12:27 pm to RedRifle
Amazing player
Changes the game as much as a point guard of his size can
Whines to officials constantly
Flops
Take the good with the bad. I like his commercials and it seems like he is a decent guy off the court.
Changes the game as much as a point guard of his size can
Whines to officials constantly
Flops
Take the good with the bad. I like his commercials and it seems like he is a decent guy off the court.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 12:28 pm to shel311
quote:
He'll be the 2nd best PG ever imo.
Only one other has ever sustained a higher level of play.
Magic
Stockton
Paul
Also, the fact that Deron Williams dominated his arse for most of his career doesn't help his case.
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