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What happened to Cornell basketball?
Posted on 2/7/14 at 11:31 pm
Posted on 2/7/14 at 11:31 pm
They made the Sweet 16 in 2010 and got great media attention during the run. This year they are 1-18 with their only win against DIII Oberlin College. How can a program experience such a wide swing in 4 years with the same coach at the helm?
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 11:35 pm to TheWalrus
It's not the same coach. The good coach went to BC. He's about to get fired so they should just fire the new guy and bring him back.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 11:39 pm to TheWalrus
I remember one of the Scelfos went up there to play. Not sure if he's still there.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 3:58 am to Overbrook
Players in programs like Cornell grow and leave. That and the head coach left is probably why.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 4:30 am to TheWalrus
We played Cornell back in November and won by 45 points. We could have named our score in that game. Blew my mind how bad they were
This post was edited on 2/8/14 at 4:31 am
Posted on 2/8/14 at 7:15 am to TheWalrus
Different coach. I wanna see yale get good.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 9:06 am to TheWalrus
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They made the Sweet 16 in 2010 and got great media attention during the run. This year they are 1-18 with their only win against DIII Oberlin College. How can a program experience such a wide swing in 4 years with the same coach at the helm?
did you ever watch LSU during the John Brady years ?
Posted on 2/8/14 at 9:08 am to saintsfan22
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It's not the same coach. The good coach went to BC. He's about to get fired so they should just fire the new guy and bring him back.
How many times have we seen this .. mid-major head coach's team makes one 2 or 3-game Cinderella NCAA tourney run .. gets hired by a major, then falls flat on their faces against stiffer competition night in and night out and are out of a job just a few years later .. Some never resurface either ..
Posted on 2/8/14 at 9:25 am to TigahRag
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How many times have we seen this .. mid-major head coach's team makes one 2 or 3-game Cinderella NCAA tourney run .. gets hired by a major, then falls flat on their faces against stiffer competition night in and night out and are out of a job just a few years later .. Some never resurface either ..
A lot; but what often happens is that usually these mid major coaches are leaving for other mid majors like Boston College who happen to be in major conferences, and that schedule will overwhelm them as you said. Cornell doesn't do traditional recruiting, so that coach was an extra risk. A lot of times the best coach on the mid major was an assistant, who takes over and makes the mid major better after the coach leaves. Not true in Cornell's case, but true with Butler, Gonzaga, et al.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 1:00 pm to Overbrook
Sorry to take this off-topic, but sort of has to do with Cornell's former coach, Steve Donahue.
Although his final three years didn't go so well, canning Al Skinner was a mistake for Boston College.
That guy found some incredibly productive players that were not the most highly touted players in high school -- Jared Dudley, Sean Williams, Tyrese Rice, Craig Smith, Troy Bell, Reggie Jackson, Rakim Sanders, etc, etc.
After BC fired Skinner, they brought in Cornell's coach, Steve Donahue. Dude had a very good final three years as Cornell's coach and won a few tournament games in that span. However, his teams were very average before that.
I think BC took a large step back after the Donahue hiring because Tyrese Rice graduated (one of the most underrated players of the decade before this) and Rakim Sanders and Brady Heslip (yes, the Baylor guy) both left the program as well. They haven't been the same since. Donahue will be fired soon.
Although his final three years didn't go so well, canning Al Skinner was a mistake for Boston College.
That guy found some incredibly productive players that were not the most highly touted players in high school -- Jared Dudley, Sean Williams, Tyrese Rice, Craig Smith, Troy Bell, Reggie Jackson, Rakim Sanders, etc, etc.
After BC fired Skinner, they brought in Cornell's coach, Steve Donahue. Dude had a very good final three years as Cornell's coach and won a few tournament games in that span. However, his teams were very average before that.
I think BC took a large step back after the Donahue hiring because Tyrese Rice graduated (one of the most underrated players of the decade before this) and Rakim Sanders and Brady Heslip (yes, the Baylor guy) both left the program as well. They haven't been the same since. Donahue will be fired soon.
Posted on 2/8/14 at 1:34 pm to S
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I wanna see yale get good
bout to get ran on tonight at harvard
Posted on 2/8/14 at 2:01 pm to Overbrook
Dominic. might be a senior now
Posted on 2/8/14 at 3:31 pm to hoopsgalore
That Cornell team had a 7 footer named Jeff Foote who was pretty good
They also made 3 straight NCAA tournies from 2008-2010 and got blown out the first 2 times, Sweet 16 on the 3rd run
They were just an experienced and disciplined team those years
Also doesn't help Harvard/Princeton have risen in that league and own it now
They also made 3 straight NCAA tournies from 2008-2010 and got blown out the first 2 times, Sweet 16 on the 3rd run
They were just an experienced and disciplined team those years
Also doesn't help Harvard/Princeton have risen in that league and own it now
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