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re: Warriors should be scared part twoPosted by LSU Fan 90812 on 5/23/16 at 12:14 pm to WestCoastAg
Dude. The thunder winning small is new. The Warriors death line up getting blown off the floor is new! WHAT THE frick ARE YOU SMOKING?!
re: Warriors should be scared part twoPosted by slackster on 5/23/16 at 12:15 pm to LSU Fan 90812
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Guys, curry last night was not the problem for this team.
Tough to say that when he turned in the 17th worst +/- in the league this year. Thompson turned in the 10th worse and Green was the 2nd worst.
They sucked as a unit. When they were on the floor the Thunder were taking it to them. Hard to argue otherwise, regardless of Curry's counting stats.
re: Warriors should be scared part twoPosted by WestCoastAg on 5/23/16 at 12:15 pm to LSU Fan 90812
quote:yes. The fact that it actually worked is new. The fact that the thunder have tried to do so with this lineup is not
The thunder winning small is new. The Warriors death line up getting blown off the floor is new!
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like i don't feel like the free throws disparity is any result of poor officiating
Me either, and it isn't necessarily the end-all, be-all metric for the Warriors either, but it is a huge deal for the Thunder.
If they're not getting to the line, it is unlikely they're playing the style of basketball that is conducive to a win against Golden State. You simply cannot go toe to toe with them in a jump shooting contest or you'll get blown out.
re: Warriors should be scared part twoPosted by dukke v on 5/23/16 at 12:18 pm to WestCoastAg
Sounds like you aren't giving the thunder a chance. Is this right??????
re: Warriors should be scared part twoPosted by WestCoastAg on 5/23/16 at 12:20 pm to dukke v
I'm not saying that. They are up 2-1. That's a good position to be in. I just don't think they have figured the Warriors out and that they have finally found a way to beat the Warriors when they go small. I don't think the Warriors should be scared and I won't think so unless the thunder win game 4 or 5
re: Warriors should be scared part twoPosted by UNO on 5/23/16 at 12:21 pm to WestCoastAg
i definitely took a lot from that game on super bowl eve. regular season games can only mean so much. but that night made me think the thunder were the biggest challenge in the west to the warriors, more than the spurs.
stats about the thunder going small, which i really haven't argued about. i'm not talking about them going small.
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you mentioned before that their bigs aren't great at guarding screens. i think on the ball and off the ball, they're pretty decent. in game 1 especially. obviously speaking about ibaka and adams
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my hot takes on here have literally all been supported by stats
stats about the thunder going small, which i really haven't argued about. i'm not talking about them going small.
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you mentioned before that their bigs aren't great at guarding screens. i think on the ball and off the ball, they're pretty decent. in game 1 especially. obviously speaking about ibaka and adams
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re: Warriors should be scared part twoPosted by dukke v on 5/23/16 at 12:23 pm to WestCoastAg
Ok. They haven't figured the Warriors out yet they are up 2-1. Ok dipshit.
re: Warriors should be scared part twoPosted by WestCoastAg on 5/23/16 at 12:29 pm to UNO
quote:they arent. Kanter is awful. He has one of the worst PPP defenses in P&R situations. Adams is mediocre at best. This is what the stats say and I'd post them but I can't get them to pull up on my phone.
you mentioned before that their bigs aren't great at guarding screens
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re: Warriors should be scared part twoPosted by LSU Fan 90812 on 5/23/16 at 12:30 pm to WestCoastAg
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yes. The fact that it actually worked is new. The fact that the thunder have tried to do so with this lineup is not
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re: Warriors should be scared part twoPosted by UNO on 5/23/16 at 12:31 pm to WestCoastAg
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yes. The fact that it actually worked is new. The fact that the thunder have tried to do so with this lineup is not
so what exactly are you arguing? because the thunder didn't win any games in the regular season, that means they don't have some advantages they can exploit against golden state? it's a lot different playing a team one time in the regular season, throwing together a scouting report the day before or morning of, going out and playing the game, then getting on the plane and heading to the next city.
and that game that the thunder lost by double digits against golden state in the regular season, they played on the road against the clippers the night before. and the thunder were leading going into the 4th quarter and then ran out of gas.
i think you're severely underestimating how competitive okc and golden state's games have been this season. w/l results aren't everything.
re: Warriors should be scared part twoPosted by UNO on 5/23/16 at 12:33 pm to WestCoastAg
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they arent. Kanter is awful. He has one of the worst PPP defenses in P&R situations.
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obviously speaking about ibaka and adams
because any of us think kanter is
it's like you make these obvious points and act like you're providing some riveting information.
re: Warriors should be scared part twoPosted by WestCoastAg on 5/23/16 at 12:35 pm to UNO
quote:the exact thing you are arguing for as to why the thunder can beat the Warriors because of their ability to have their big men defend the P&R while being able to switch and help on the perimeter. They have tried to that vs the Warriors all year and it always failed. They always had a +/- in the negative whenever they went small. My argument has nothing to do with the game outcomes and everything to do with how the thunder have played when they have tried to do the thing you guys are lauding them for
so what exactly are you arguing?
re: Warriors should be scared part twoPosted by LSU Fan 90812 on 5/23/16 at 12:35 pm to UNO
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it's not new. it's just new.
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it's exactly the same. except this time it's different.
this dude is the fricking yogi berra of nba analysis.
re: Warriors should be scared part twoPosted by WestCoastAg on 5/23/16 at 12:37 pm to UNO
quote:no I'm not
it's like you make these obvious points and act like you're providing some riveting information.
You have been in this whole thread arguing why the thunder can beat the Warriors and are acting like the Warriors don't do that exact thing at a literal historical level. My argument was that their bigs don't do well defending the P&R. They can help that by going small to let Durant and ibaka disrupt it. However, when they have done so before last night, it never worked
re: Warriors should be scared part twoPosted by WestCoastAg on 5/23/16 at 12:38 pm to LSU Fan 90812
quote:coming from the person who thinks the thunder have just magically found out how their small ball lineup is going to win
this dude is the fricking yogi berra of nba analysis.
re: Warriors should be scared part twoPosted by UNO on 5/23/16 at 12:39 pm to WestCoastAg
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They have tried to that vs the Warriors all year and it always failed.
such failure. losing in overtime, losing a game down to the wire on the road, and then losing a game on a back-to-back on the road where they were leading in the 4th quarter.
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They always had a +/- in the negative whenever they went small. My argument has nothing to do with the game outcomes and everything to do with how the thunder have played when they have tried to do the thing you guys are lauding them for
again, i never mentioned anything about the thunder going small. you're like a broken record.
and the thunder aren't the same team they were in february and march. they are defending a lot better. the effort is better. that's been a point a lot of commentators are making. they are a much improved team. i believe this much improved team matches up well with golden state. period.
re: Warriors should be scared part twoPosted by WestCoastAg on 5/23/16 at 12:45 pm to UNO
quote:this is the only game I can say the thunder actually defended the Warriors well. And that has a lot to do with how well their small ball lineup played against the Warriors
they are defending a lot better.
quote:and I disagree. I think the cavs match up pretty well
i believe this much improved team matches up well with golden state. period
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re: Warriors should be scared part twoPosted by UNO on 5/23/16 at 12:50 pm to WestCoastAg
well, it would be pretty impressive then for the thunder to win this series despite not having many matchup advantages, wouldn't it?
and i think the cavs match up better against the warriors too. i firmly believe the cavs would beat the warriors. that doesn't mean the thunder can't match up decently well too.
and i think the cavs match up better against the warriors too. i firmly believe the cavs would beat the warriors. that doesn't mean the thunder can't match up decently well too.
re: Warriors should be scared part twoPosted by WestCoastAg on 5/23/16 at 12:50 pm to UNO
quote:it would be really impressive
well, it would be pretty impressive then for the thunder to win this series despite not having many matchup advantages, wouldn't it
quote:I think the cavs have the best chance
i firmly believe the cavs would beat the warriors
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