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Posted on 11/1/09 at 9:09 pm
Posted by Tigerdogg
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Posted on 11/1/09 at 9:09 pm
Can't remember a year when there were 7 undefeated teams after week 9. This could be a bad year for the BCS. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 11/1/09 at 9:09 pm to
If UT and an SEC team win out, it's a great year for the BCS and it would have clearly done its job
Posted by ZZTIGERS
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/1/09 at 9:12 pm to
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If UT and an SEC team win out, it's a great year for the BCS and it would have clearly done its job
That's what they will tell you, but I know different.
Posted by Roughneck
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 11/1/09 at 9:12 pm to
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If UT and an SEC team win out, it's a great year for the BCS and it would have clearly done its job
There's that team in Iowa, its fans, and the people who run the conference with the incorrectly numbered name that would disagree with you.
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 11/1/09 at 9:13 pm to
The BCS sucks. The fact that there is a chance (however small) that 4 teams could be undefeated and not have a chance at the championship is just one of many illustrations of how horrible the system is.
Posted by Eternalmajin
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 11/1/09 at 9:15 pm to
Would you say the biggest wrench would be winner of the SECCG already having one loss (whether it's UF, Bama, LSU) and UT losing along the way?

You may have 4 unbeatens (TCU, Boise, Iowa, Cincinatti) that are all thought of as lesser programs, with the two favorites from the start of the year having 1 loss (SECC, UT). You'll also have Oregon there with one loss. Who do you put in?
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36449 posts
Posted on 11/1/09 at 9:16 pm to
that would be fricking ridiculous. i think iowa gets in under that scenario. i have no clue who they play.
Posted by SwampDonks
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 11/1/09 at 9:18 pm to
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i think iowa gets in under that scenario. i have no clue who they play.


+1, but Iowa would be a lock
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21652 posts
Posted on 11/1/09 at 9:18 pm to
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If UT and an SEC team win out, it's a great year for the BCS and it would have clearly done its job


How can you say this with a straight face? Just because you think that one loss SEC team and Texas are the 2 best teams doesn't mean the BCS did its job. The BCS is supposed to eliminate controversy, while it seems like it's only going to create some if Iowa runs the table and doesn't get a shot at the title. The BCS only did it's job in 2002 and 2005...when the lone 2 undefeated teams played for the title while they wouldn't have been able to under the old system.
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
35308 posts
Posted on 11/1/09 at 9:19 pm to
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Would you say the biggest wrench would be winner of the SECCG already having one loss (whether it's UF, Bama, LSU) and UT losing along the way?

You may have 4 unbeatens (TCU, Boise, Iowa, Cincinatti) that are all thought of as lesser programs, with the two favorites from the start of the year having 1 loss (SECC, UT). You'll also have Oregon there with one loss. Who do you put in?



This is where shite gets wild and while unlikely, could be a huge issue for the system. I'd think Iowa vs Cincy, but I wouldn't have much confidence in Cincy's computer score compared to Oregon a 1 loss SEC champ
Posted by Tigerdogg
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 11/1/09 at 9:23 pm to
Even if UT and Fla or Bama win out you CANNOT say that an unbeaten Boise St. or Cincy doesn't deserve to be in that game with one of those teams. If UT and Bama win out and Cincy and Boise St. go win out, why shouldn't Cincy and Boise St. get a chance at the title, this is what drives me crazy about this joke we call the BCS that is nothing more than a cash cow for the BCS conference presidents.
Posted by ZZTIGERS
Member since Dec 2007
17066 posts
Posted on 11/1/09 at 9:25 pm to
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Even if UT and Fla or Bama win out you CANNOT say that an unbeaten Boise St. or Cincy doesn't deserve to be in that game with one of those teams. If UT and Bama win out and Cincy and Boise St. go win out, why shouldn't Cincy and Boise St. get a chance at the title, this is what drives me crazy about this joke we call the BCS that is nothing more than a cash cow for the BCS conference presidents.
We should hang out
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
35308 posts
Posted on 11/1/09 at 9:25 pm to
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you CANNOT say that an unbeaten Boise St. or Cincy doesn't deserve to be in that game with one of those teams.


based on the schedule you can

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why shouldn't Cincy and Boise St. get a chance at the title


Boise played UC Davis. Cincy played SE Missouri st. Sorry. if you play UC Davis or SE Missouri St. I have no simpathy for you
This post was edited on 11/1/09 at 9:27 pm
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 11/1/09 at 9:29 pm to
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There's that team in Iowa, its fans, and the people who run the conference with the incorrectly numbered name that would disagree with you.


yeah, who is the BCS to deprive the refs of their hard earned national championship?
Posted by Tigerdogg
At least I have chicken!
Member since Feb 2005
1042 posts
Posted on 11/1/09 at 9:30 pm to
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if you play UC Davis or SE Missouri St. I have no simpathy for you

I agree, but you can't say that just because they scheduled those teams this year, they couldn't beat a Fla or Iowa or UT
Posted by Tigerdogg
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Member since Feb 2005
1042 posts
Posted on 11/1/09 at 9:31 pm to
an eight team playoff would end this ten year debate over who deserves to play in the NCG
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
35308 posts
Posted on 11/1/09 at 9:35 pm to
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an eight team playoff would end this ten year debate over who deserves to play in the NCG



Do you think SC, Mizzou, and Kansas did enough on the field to deserve to play for the national title in 2007?

An 8 team playoff cheapens the regular season. I'd be okay with 4
This post was edited on 11/1/09 at 9:36 pm
Posted by lsutiger2486
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
6761 posts
Posted on 11/1/09 at 9:35 pm to
Boise St and TCU will not get in to the game.

It is really only between UF, Bama, LSU, UT, Cincy, Iowa, and Oregon. I think at least two of those teams will win out. The only one loss teams I think have a chance are LSU and Oregon in that order. If any in that list lose they are out IMO.
Posted by Tigerdogg
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Member since Feb 2005
1042 posts
Posted on 11/1/09 at 9:47 pm to
I just hate the BCS, yes it's given LSU two national titles but the system will never be perfect, I've been against it since '98 and I want championships won on the field and not in computer labs and by formulas concieved by people that don't watch football. Four or Eight or Sixteen, it doesn't matter. I wish every year for utter chaos in the BCS with hope that everyone will see that it's an embarrasment to college football
This post was edited on 11/1/09 at 9:48 pm
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36449 posts
Posted on 11/1/09 at 9:48 pm to
well i mean kansas proved they were a legit team when they beat the acc champion and won the orange bowl. were they the best team in the country? almost definitely not.

but, that situation is completely different as all the teams being discussed will have presumably won their conference.
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