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re: UFC 160 - HW Championship - Saturday, May 25th at 10E

Posted on 5/21/13 at 4:21 pm to
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/21/13 at 4:21 pm to
If Rashad loses to Hendo, will he be cut?
Posted by CunningLinguist
Dallas, TX
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 5/21/13 at 4:24 pm to
Rashad is too big of a name to be cut. Dana will feed him some can at MW when Rashad drops down to keep him around.
Posted by bubbz
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 5/21/13 at 4:31 pm to
Card is retardedly stacked. I'll be watching the entire card including Facebook prelims.
Posted by TTownTiger
Austin
Member since Oct 2007
5301 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 5:45 pm to
There are big names on this card, but hard for me to consider this card "stacked" considering the main event/co main event. Bigfoot was destroyed by Cain the first time they fought and well on his way to losing to Overeem before connecting to Reem's glass jaw. I don't see this second fight with Cain being very competitive.

And I love Mark Hunt and hope he pulls the upset. But up to last fight, Dana was pretty much laughing at the thought of Hunt vs the top few fighters of the division. And it's not like Hunt has a strong resume' when he steps up in competition. Again, I hope he wins. But there is a very good chance JDS shows everyone what Hunt really is... a one dimensional fighter.

I guess I consider this card a stacked undercard with big names in the main events, but not necessarily competitive main events (if what I think happens actually occurs).
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
32600 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 7:46 pm to
While I hear what you're saying and somewhat agree, how competitive was JDS/Cain 1? With that being said, Bigfoot will probably get smashed again, but you never know

quote:

JDS shows everyone what Hunt really is... a one dimensional fighter
isn't JDS a one dimensional fighter as well?
Posted by TTownTiger
Austin
Member since Oct 2007
5301 posts
Posted on 5/21/13 at 8:08 pm to
quote:

isn't JDS a one dimensional fighter as well?


Maybe so. But the difference between JDS & Hunt is that we KNOW hunt is one dimensional. JDS hasnt shown much ground fighting yet, but he does have grappling in his background (isn't he a BJJ black belt under big Nog?). Maybe he just never uses it because he has been able to rely on his striking for so long. So we don't really know how one dimensional JDS is until he has to use that BJJ. IF (and that's a big "if") JDS does actually have some sort skill on the ground and/or more diversity in his striking skills that he hasn't shown, you kinda have to assume this will be the fight that he shows more than just boxing.

Anyways, I think we'll all agree that the only chance Hunt has is that JDS really is just as one dimensional and he tries to stand and box with Hunt. JDS should know that too and should at least try to show something different if he has it.

Posted by CunningLinguist
Dallas, TX
Member since Mar 2006
18759 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 7:10 am to
Josh Barnett has signed with UFC
Posted by Shoulderchoke
Swamps of Lafourche
Member since Aug 2008
7837 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 7:33 am to
Barnett-Mir time
Posted by lance814
Member since Feb 2013
716 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 7:49 am to
quote:

Maybe so. But the difference between JDS & Hunt is that we KNOW hunt is one dimensional. JDS hasnt shown much ground fighting yet, but he does have grappling in his background (isn't he a BJJ black belt under big Nog?). Maybe he just never uses it because he has been able to rely on his striking for so long. So we don't really know how one dimensional JDS is until he has to use that BJJ. IF (and that's a big "if") JDS does actually have some sort skill on the ground and/or more diversity in his striking skills that he hasn't shown, you kinda have to assume this will be the fight that he shows more than just boxing.

Anyways, I think we'll all agree that the only chance Hunt has is that JDS really is just as one dimensional and he tries to stand and box with Hunt. JDS should know that too and should at least try to show something different if he has it.


Hunt has a puncher's chance in this fight. Have you watched JDS vs Carwin/Big Country? JDS picked them apart with his excellent boxing. I don't see this fight being any different.
Posted by TTownTiger
Austin
Member since Oct 2007
5301 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 8:24 am to
quote:

Hunt has a puncher's chance in this fight. Have you watched JDS vs Carwin/Big Country? JDS picked them apart with his excellent boxing.


I agree with this. But that is the only way Hunt can win - if JDS tries to box with him and ends up getting caught. Everyone knows this, including JDS. So this "might" be the fight JDS shows a little more diversity in his game other than straight boxing (if he even has something else to offer, that is).

Posted by lance814
Member since Feb 2013
716 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 8:36 am to
quote:

I agree with this. But that is the only way Hunt can win - if JDS tries to box with him and ends up getting caught. Everyone knows this, including JDS. So this "might" be the fight JDS shows a little more diversity in his game other than straight boxing (if he even has something else to offer, that is).


Your previous post made it sound like JDS had a disadvantage on his feet when, in fact, we were just saying the same thing.
Posted by ScrapPack
Member since Nov 2011
3707 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:28 am to
Matt Serra has announced his retirement. Mark Laimon is crying somewhere.
Posted by CunningLinguist
Dallas, TX
Member since Mar 2006
18759 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 4:23 pm to
I thought he retired a long time ago. Looks like Moussasi is calling out Vitor Belfort now
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
32600 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 5:18 pm to
Mousasi/Vitor would be very interesting (at MW or LHW?), but I'd think Vitor vs. Anderson 2 in Brasil has got to happen next unless Anderson loses in a couple weeks, or moves up/down to challenge JJ/GSP for their belt
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
32600 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 5:25 pm to
quote:

Maybe so. But the difference between JDS & Hunt is that we KNOW hunt is one dimensional. JDS hasnt shown much ground fighting yet, but he does have grappling in his background (isn't he a BJJ black belt under big Nog?). Maybe he just never uses it because he has been able to rely on his striking for so long. So we don't really know how one dimensional JDS is until he has to use that BJJ. IF (and that's a big "if") JDS does actually have some sort skill on the ground and/or more diversity in his striking skills that he hasn't shown, you kinda have to assume this will be the fight that he shows more than just boxing. Anyways, I think we'll all agree that the only chance Hunt has is that JDS really is just as one dimensional and he tries to stand and box with Hunt. JDS should know that too and should at least try to show something different if he has it.


Agreed again. It will be interesting to see what Junior does and if he decides to take this fight to the canvas. Bigfoot has some really underrated bjj and I'd love to see him catch Cain in some sub off his back. That'd really throw the HW division into a doozy
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 5:36 pm to
I asked this in the other thread about Barnett...how come his "win" over Randy wasn't changed to a nc?
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51615 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 5:48 pm to
quote:

Looks like Moussasi is calling out Vitor Belfort now



After his awesome decision against a sparring partner on short notice.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81261 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 5:55 pm to
failed the steroids test
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 7:24 pm to
He was stripped of the title but got to keep the win. It should've been changed to a nc.
Posted by Son of Dad
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2011
206 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 8:48 pm to
He did take Carwin down a couple of times late in their fight just to show that he could. He is supposed to have some pretty good BJJ as well.
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