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Two conclusions about recent Texas state football championship games
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:04 am
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:04 am
Hopefully, some of you from LA or other states who at least watched some of the games on Fox Southwest can share your views as well, but here goes.
They should start considering allowing replays in these play-off games, at the very least the state championship games. There was one obviously terrible call on a fourth/first down measurement call that resulted in an undeserved touchdown and could have affected the outcome of the game. It seems like you can't get two or three officials to overrule the one making the call.
Second, those high school coaches who hope to see their teams advance further and who did not make it to the state championship game, should realize the importance of developing a good place-kicker--the Ennis and Cedar High kickers were crucial factors in winning their teams a title.
This kicker should be developed as soon as possible--junior high is not too young. Most every small and large town has a soccer league, so why not take advantage of this wonderful resource. Find the soccer kids with the strongest legs and work with them. You see a few examples of this, but I am not sure when Texas high school coachces, especially in the smaller schools, will finally realize the importance of developing a dependable kicker. It can win you a championship. Just ask Cedar Hill and Ennis.
They should start considering allowing replays in these play-off games, at the very least the state championship games. There was one obviously terrible call on a fourth/first down measurement call that resulted in an undeserved touchdown and could have affected the outcome of the game. It seems like you can't get two or three officials to overrule the one making the call.
Second, those high school coaches who hope to see their teams advance further and who did not make it to the state championship game, should realize the importance of developing a good place-kicker--the Ennis and Cedar High kickers were crucial factors in winning their teams a title.
This kicker should be developed as soon as possible--junior high is not too young. Most every small and large town has a soccer league, so why not take advantage of this wonderful resource. Find the soccer kids with the strongest legs and work with them. You see a few examples of this, but I am not sure when Texas high school coachces, especially in the smaller schools, will finally realize the importance of developing a dependable kicker. It can win you a championship. Just ask Cedar Hill and Ennis.
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Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:22 am to rjokerlsu
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This kicker should be developed as soon as possible--junior high is not too young.
I've often said I'm going to raise my future son to be a punter from the day he is born. I know it takes physical talent, but I can't help but think if I train him how to punt from the time he's 5, he ought to at least be able to earn a scholarship to some college somewhere. I mean, if that is the only position you train for, a free ride to college should be a real possibility. Who else trains specifically for punting from 5 years old?
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:27 am to supadave3
It's all about the long snapper
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:28 am to supadave3
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Who else trains specifically for punting from 5 years old?
The Colquitts.
And they have all the jobs.
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It's all about the long snapper
My friend and I have said this since we were 15 and that was what we'd train our individual sons in
This post was edited on 12/23/14 at 10:29 am
Posted on 12/23/14 at 10:38 am to rjokerlsu
The Ennis K only made one FG during the game. The rest were extra points, no?
That game was a back and forth affair. The game could have been salted away had the RB for Cedar Park staying in bounds and making Ennis burn their final TO.
The K for CP missed a 'short' kick from like 28 yards out that would have put the Wolves up by 7.
Just saying, the K for Ennis didn't do much to win the game as the K for CP missed a short kick late. And if I am not mistaken, that was CP's backup K.
ETA:
But I agree with your point about the importance of Ks. Just pointing out that the K for CP was a senior that only played in 4 games and kicked 3 total FGs during the season.
That game was a back and forth affair. The game could have been salted away had the RB for Cedar Park staying in bounds and making Ennis burn their final TO.
The K for CP missed a 'short' kick from like 28 yards out that would have put the Wolves up by 7.
Just saying, the K for Ennis didn't do much to win the game as the K for CP missed a short kick late. And if I am not mistaken, that was CP's backup K.
ETA:
But I agree with your point about the importance of Ks. Just pointing out that the K for CP was a senior that only played in 4 games and kicked 3 total FGs during the season.
This post was edited on 12/23/14 at 10:41 am
Posted on 12/23/14 at 11:10 am to rjokerlsu
quote:Better to teach perspective. This is high school sports. These are kids. This is playtime. A bad call doesn't really matter.
They should start considering allowing replays in these play-off games, at the very least the state championship games. There was one obviously terrible call on a fourth/first down measurement call that resulted in an undeserved touchdown and could have affected the outcome of the game. It seems like you can't get two or three officials to overrule the one making the call.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 12:08 pm to rjokerlsu
Cedar Hill had some terrible kicking problems throughout the game in both missed field goals, a kickoff out of bounds, and terrible coverage units. He made up for it in the fourth quarter, hitting a short game winner and also a 40 yarder, but had they lost, the kicker was primed to be the goat. Honestly, Katy had the better kicker, and a far better punter.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 12:09 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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The Colquitts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 12:14 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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The Colquitts
V,B
Posted on 12/23/14 at 12:15 pm to rjokerlsu
we always got our soccer team's best player to kick. had a guy my jr/sr year who could boot it out the fricking stadium, and was pretty reliable as a place kicker from 35-45 yds
Posted on 12/23/14 at 12:17 pm to supadave3
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I've often said I'm going to raise my future son to be a punter from the day he is born
punting is lame as shite, though. at least attempt to be a kicker as well. then kinda pick one in college or something.
i know a guy who did this. the kid is possibly the least athletic person on the planet and he's going to georgia to kick next year.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 12:43 pm to ballscaster
quote:so what do you think of college and pro replay? should we only review plays when $$$$$$ is riding on it and the game's outcome? yeah i agree with you for most hs games but i'm pretty sure the Texas State championships have the technology and the production for it. the Louisiana State Championships probably have it too
Better to teach perspective. This is high school sports. These are kids. This is playtime. A bad call doesn't really matter.
This post was edited on 12/23/14 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 12/23/14 at 1:00 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
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know a guy who did this. the kid is possibly the least athletic person on the planet and he's going to georgia to kick next year.
See, that's what I'm talking about. No doubt my son will be unathletic as shite but 13 years of training out to be enough to get him to SLU or ULL or something. Anything else is just bonus.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 1:28 pm to chalmetteowl
quote:The same.
so what do you think of college
quote:Different.
pro replay?
quote:M'eh. It's an after-school activity. Live and let live, but I see no need to burn so many calories on this. In my utopia, kids are taught the value of teamwork and sportsmanship, and they're taught that it's just a game, and if you get hosed on a bad call, it's just a minor footnote in your life.
yeah i agree with you for most hs games but i'm pretty sure the Texas State championships have the technology and the production for it.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 1:58 pm to ballscaster
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they're taught that it's just a game,
and all those teams are out by round 2
Posted on 12/23/14 at 2:05 pm to rjokerlsu
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They should start considering allowing replays in these play-off games, at the very least the state championship games.
Who will pay for it? It ain't cheap.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 7:43 pm to arrakis
Texas is not exactly a poor state, and high school football is big here--every state championship game was televised.
They can come up with the money, especially if they are going to get the revenue from allowing four teams in most districts to qualify for the play-offs. Hey, I know officiating is a very tough job, but it makes good sense in these very important games for two or three who are sure what the call should be to over-rule the one who blew it. The object is to get it right as much of the time as possible.
They can come up with the money, especially if they are going to get the revenue from allowing four teams in most districts to qualify for the play-offs. Hey, I know officiating is a very tough job, but it makes good sense in these very important games for two or three who are sure what the call should be to over-rule the one who blew it. The object is to get it right as much of the time as possible.
Posted on 12/23/14 at 7:48 pm to Baloo
However, my point was that in the clutch, when it really counted, the Cedar Hill kicker came through making two big ones including the game winner, while the Katy kicker, who may well have been a better kicker, missed a shorter kick that hit the uprights. Had he made it, the game would have likely gone into overtime.
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