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This is why we should have an 8 team playoff

Posted on 11/26/16 at 5:52 pm
Posted by CommoDawg
Member since Jun 2015
2322 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 5:52 pm
5 division winners plus 3 at-large bids. Re-seed the teams after determining who makes the playoff. If a G5 team is ranked #14 or better include them in the playoff. First round would be played at higher seeds home stadium.

This year the matchups would probably be

8 Western Michigan

at

1 Alabama

5 Penn State

at

4 Washington


7 USC

at

2 Ohio State

6 Oklahoma

at

3 Clemson
Posted by Kodar
Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
4558 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 5:55 pm to
I have iffy feelings on the G5 detail, but I agree with your overall premise.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
33847 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 5:57 pm to
So much yes.
Posted by SoFunnyItsNot
Member since Mar 2013
4623 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 6:00 pm to
*5. Wisconsin
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
10851 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 6:00 pm to
What if Wisconsin wins?
Posted by CommoDawg
Member since Jun 2015
2322 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 6:01 pm to
They would take the place of Penn State
Posted by TDawg1313
WA
Member since Jul 2009
12309 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 6:04 pm to
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7 USC

Why over Colorado?
Posted by lsusa
Doing Missionary work for LSU
Member since Oct 2005
4491 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 6:04 pm to
It's no improvement on the four team which was no improvement on the 8 team


Why is it so hard to understand that Division I college football is a different animal than every other sport. There is no equity in scheduling or relative conference strength. Unlike basketball and baseball, teams can only play one game a week which limits the size of the tournament field

No matter what the format, there will always be some controversy of someone being left out.
Posted by CommoDawg
Member since Jun 2015
2322 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 6:06 pm to
Colorado would be left out because I have them losing to Washington and they lost to USC soo..
Posted by CommoDawg
Member since Jun 2015
2322 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 6:07 pm to
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It's no improvement on the four team which was no improvement on the 8 team Why is it so hard to understand that Division I college football is a different animal than every other sport. There is no equity in scheduling or relative conference strength. Unlike basketball and baseball, teams can only play one game a week which limits the size of the tournament field No matter what the format, there will always be some controversy of someone being left out.



It would be an improvement over the current system because winning your conference would mean an automatic entry into the playoff.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34581 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 6:10 pm to
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8 Western Michigan


I stopped right here.
Posted by CommoDawg
Member since Jun 2015
2322 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 6:11 pm to
They could nix the G5 requirement and I would be Michigan in there instead.
Posted by lsusa
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Posted on 11/26/16 at 6:13 pm to
So do we let the Sun Belt, AAC and Mac champs in?

Then if not "winnin your conference" doesn't get you in, just winning a conference that was decided before the season for whatever reason gets you in.


There is far more influence from "off the field" in a four team playoff than there was a two.

Would be that way in an 8 team too.
Posted by Kodar
Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
4558 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 6:13 pm to
quote:

Why is it so hard to understand that Division I college football is a different animal than every other sport. There is no equity in scheduling or relative conference strength. Unlike basketball and baseball, teams can only play one game a week which limits the size of the tournament field

No matter what the format, there will always be some controversy of someone being left out.
There will indeed by controversy no matter what, but do you not want the least possible controversy?

Is an 8 team playoff with 5 guaranteed conf champs and 3 at larges not better than this? You take 5 slots out of controversy entirely. At that point, no more questions are asked about who won the conference championship, and I think the controversy decreases some.

To truly solve the overall issue would require a total overhaul of CFB. That would include, in my opinion, basically kicking everyone outside of the P5 out of the division and limiting the teams to those of the P5. Those who want to expand can snatch some teams from the G5 is desired.

That would probably take some realignment etc., but it is possible, and it's one of the few routes that can be taken to improve overall schedules and solve the controversy issue.
Posted by Kodar
Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
4558 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 6:15 pm to
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So do we let the Sun Belt, AAC and Mac champs in?

In the system proposed, they could slide in to the at-large slots if they're good enough, but that's still controversial.

In my opinion, the non P5 just needs to separate from DIV 1 and go into their own division. The likelihood of a non P5 team ever winning or even getting into the playoff is about slim to none.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30008 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 6:16 pm to
We don't have enough teams to fill out a 4-team playoff and you want to,expand???

Why do people want to ruin the best regular season in all of sports??? It amazes me that people bitch about the NFL ratings plummeting and then turn around and want to make college football more like the NFL.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34581 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 6:19 pm to
At least five of the teams in the OP would not have even been considered title contenders under the Old Jumbled Up System (OJUS)
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17872 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 6:20 pm to
Hell yeah, a 16 game season stretching into mid january.
Posted by Kodar
Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
4558 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 6:38 pm to
quote:

We don't have enough teams to fill out a 4-team playoff and you want to,expand???
This statement makes no sense at all.

quote:

Why do people want to ruin the best regular season in all of sports??? It amazes me that people bitch about the NFL ratings plummeting and then turn around and want to make college football more like the NFL.


Holy hyperbole batman. Expanding to 8 DOES NOT RUIN THE REGULAR SEASON. I'm tired of people saying that stupid shite. You only really "ruin" the regular season if the playoff expands to unrealistically high numbers. CFB has 128 teams, and currently only 4 spots. Roughly 3% of teams get into the playoff. Every regular season game still matters. Additionally, the detail of higher seed having home-field advantage solves some of that issue. The NFL with far less teams and a bigger playoff absolutely whips the arse of CFB in ratings year in and year out.

NFL postseason makes CFB postseason look like child's play in terms of entertainment, and perhaps the biggest detail, it isn't ridiculously controversial.
Posted by CommoDawg
Member since Jun 2015
2322 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 6:40 pm to
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Kodar


You are a smart dude
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