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The Reason Lebron isn't Legoat
Posted on 6/8/17 at 9:50 am
Posted on 6/8/17 at 9:50 am
The Cavs looked absolutely pathetic down the stretch last night, no one is arguing that. Let's talk about why. Lebron gets so much credit for "dragging" a team of "misfits" to the finals for a 3rd straight year and he is crowned as the greatest for doing so. The problem is that he doesn't lift the level of play around him. That is the true, core characteristic of someone being the greatest in a team sport. All greats do it. Brady, Gretzky, Jordan, Montana, Jeter, Bird and so on. They can get the absolute best out of their surrounding casts when the game is on the line, when it truly means something. The Cavs seem to be totally dependent on Lebron and the seem so helpless without him on the floor that it is pathetic. Great leader lift the followers up so that they can help themselves succeed. Flame away, fan boys.
ETA: Also, Lebron is nothing more than a 6'8, 250lb freak of nature athlete that has speed, power and hops. He is far more physically dominating which allows him to outplay people on a nightly basis. Add in the skills that he has and you get what you see, but he doesn't have the mental edge that is required to be the GOAT.
ETA: Also, Lebron is nothing more than a 6'8, 250lb freak of nature athlete that has speed, power and hops. He is far more physically dominating which allows him to outplay people on a nightly basis. Add in the skills that he has and you get what you see, but he doesn't have the mental edge that is required to be the GOAT.
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 9:53 am
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 9:54 am to MontyFranklyn
So your argument is that because guys are missing open looks it's Lebron's fault, even though he has been very efficient with his own shooting this series?
Posted on 6/8/17 at 9:55 am to MontyFranklyn
Keep the hot takes coming MSB.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 9:56 am to c on z
Maybe let's take a step back from the GOAT talks and just talk about his awesome game?
I've never seen a player consistently come under such scrutiny despite putting up great performances.
I've never seen a player consistently come under such scrutiny despite putting up great performances.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 9:56 am to MontyFranklyn
He can't make Kyle Korver make open 3s.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 9:56 am to MontyFranklyn
He was probably super tired and you can't blame him for that. Also, when you rely on Kyrie hero ball, things are going to go bad at times. The only legitimate criticism I have had heard of LeBron is that maybe he needs to go in the post more. But, I know his FG% is good, so even that is a stretch.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 9:58 am to MontyFranklyn
Alabama education.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 9:59 am to MontyFranklyn
He's too passive at the end. Why isn't tGOAT not trying to ice the game instead of taking a back seat? No one is stopping him if he drives to the lane.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 9:59 am to MontyFranklyn
So Pippen, Rodman, Kukoc, mchale, and Parrish were only good because Bird and Jordan made them good? Give me a frickin break!
This board is a shite show every year during the final with dumbass hot takes like this
It's worse than the Poliboard and Tiger Rant when LSU loses
This board is a shite show every year during the final with dumbass hot takes like this
It's worse than the Poliboard and Tiger Rant when LSU loses
Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:06 am to Crowknowsbest
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He can't make Kyle Korver make open 3s.
but reaps all the benefits when kyrie irving carries lebrons arse to the finish line.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:06 am to Chad504boy
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but reaps all the benefits when kyrie irving carries lebrons arse to the finish line.
You don't believe this, do you?
Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:12 am to Bunk Moreland
quote:
He was probably super tired and you can't blame him for that. Also, when you rely on Kyrie hero ball, things are going to go bad at times. The only legitimate criticism I have had heard of LeBron is that maybe he needs to go in the post more. But, I know his FG% is good, so even that is a stretch.
Cleveland just isn't playing their best basketball collectively right now. While some of that is what Golden State has done, a lot of is not. Cleveland gets lax at times on defense and when GS is in their small ball lineup they push it and with their length it's an easy bucket. TT has been completely non-existent and is allowing Golden State when they do miss to get east putbacks. Korver and Smith have shot horrifically this series, though JR did get going some last night. Kyrie and Love haven't scored consistently in the same game. Deron Williams is playing like the guy at the rec who is trying to impersonate Kyrie's hero ball but only looks like a flailing idiot missing bad shots and turning it over. LeBron stops going inside late when that is a key reason they had the lead. It's just been collectively a bad performance while the Warriors have played very well. Lebron has played well, though not perfect, but against this Warriors team it's just not enough for Lebron and X to score when the Warriors are either getting scoring from KD, Curry, and Klay or a combination of two of the three plus their bench.
Cleveland has shown the ability these playoffs to beat this Warriors team if they get some of their role players going. If Cleveland can rattle off these next two things will get very interesting. A Game 6 in Cleveland considering how KD's season ended and how the Warriors season ended last year could see Curry and KD shrivel up again. I don't think it happens as I had GS in 5 when the series started, but it would be very interesting to watch if Cleveland can get their shite together.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:15 am to hoopsgalore
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You don't believe this, do you?
You don't remember all those playoff runs by Kyrie in Cleveland and Love in Minny before they started carrying Lebron?
Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:17 am to MontyFranklyn
Let's be real, Lebron could get swept and walk away from the game forever and he is without question the #2 player of all time.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:25 am to David Ricky
quote:As a physical specimen, he is probably the greatest, but overall he is 4th at best.
Let's be real, Lebron could get swept and walk away from the game forever and he is without question the #2 player of all time.
Jordan
Kobe
Shaq, Kareem, Bird
James
Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:25 am to David Ricky
quote:
After the loss to the Lakers by 33 points in Game Three of the 1984 NBA Finals…
“We just played like a bunch of women tonight. … Until we get our hearts where they belong, we are in trouble.” – Larry Bird
“Larry was frustrated. He was disappointed, as we all were at getting blown out on national TV. But when he said guys played with no heart, I knew what would happen in the next game. Guys would do anything.” – M.L. Carr
(The Celtics would win Game Four in overtime, and the series in seven games. Game Four is remembered for Kevin McHale’s clothesline of Kurt Rambis).
Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:26 am to MontyFranklyn
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The problem is that he doesn't lift the level of play around him.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:47 am to MontyFranklyn
quote:Oh my
he is probably the greatest, but overall he is 4th at best.
Jordan
Kobe
Shaq, Kareem, Bird
James
Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:48 am to MontyFranklyn
Because he's not Kobe.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:52 am to El Campo Tiger
He's too passive. The end of the game last night was a great example.
Kyrie is their most clutch player when it counts.
Kyrie is their most clutch player when it counts.
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