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The NFL has a bigger issue: rounding
Posted on 11/12/15 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 11/12/15 at 3:54 pm
Joyner fined $23,152 for hit on Bridgewater
Fine list
Can anyone fill me in on the random numbers? I assume it's a percentage of something...
quote:
The NFL has hit Rams cornerback Lamarcus Joyner in the paycheck for hitting Vikings quarterback Teddy Bridgewater in the head.
Joyner has been fined $23,152 for the hit, Adam Schefter of ESPN reports.
The NFL determined that Bridgewater was a defenseless player as Joyner hit him, and that’s why Joyner was fined $23,152, which is the standard fine for a first-offense hit on a defenseless player.
Vikings coach Mike Zimmer was furious about the hit, which knocked Bridgewater out of the game. But Rams coach Jeff Fisher said Zimmer should have controlled his emotion.
Fine list
quote:
(Violation; First Offense; Second Offense)
Physical Contact with Official; $28,940; $57,881
Verbal or other Non-Physical Offense Against Official; $23,152; $46,305
Striking/Kicking/Kneeing; $8,681; $17,363
Horse Collar Tackle; $17,363; $34,728
Face Mask; $8,681; $17,363
Leg Whip; $17,363; $34,728
Late Hit; $8,681; $17,363
Spearing; $23,152; $46,305
Hit on Defenseless Player; $23,152; $46,305
Blindside Block; $23,152; $46,305
Roughing the Passer; $17,363; $34,728
Low Block; $8,681; $17,363
Chop Block; $8,681; $17,363
Fighting; $28,940; $57,881
Unnecessarily Entering Fight Area (active involvement); $5,787; $11,576
Unnecessarily Entering Fight Area (no active involvement); $2,893; $8,681
Excessive Profanity, other Unsportsmanlike Conduct; $11,576; $23,152
Taunting; $8,681; $11,576
Football Into Stands; $5,787; $11,576
Foreign Substances on Body/Uniform; $8,681; $17,363
Chin Strap violations; $8,681; $11,576
Personal Messages; $5,787; $11,576
Other Uniform/Equipment Violations; $5,787; $11,576
Can anyone fill me in on the random numbers? I assume it's a percentage of something...
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Posted on 11/12/15 at 3:58 pm to sicboy
I thought this was going to be a thread on officials being careless with the spot of the football. 
Posted on 11/12/15 at 3:59 pm to sicboy
I didn't know they get fined for putting ball in the stands.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 3:59 pm to sicboy
My assumption is it's a percentage of the gross wages per game of the league minimum.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 3:59 pm to sicboy
I've been waiting for defensive fines to become more of an issue with the players or the player associations for two reasons:
1) The fines are the same no matter what your contact is. A defensive player like Suh is fined way less, percentage wise, than a rookie or someone making the minimum
2) Defensive players have so many opportunities to be fined, and also possibly suspended and lose game checks, than offensive players do. Should their pay be higher to cover this risk?
1) The fines are the same no matter what your contact is. A defensive player like Suh is fined way less, percentage wise, than a rookie or someone making the minimum
2) Defensive players have so many opportunities to be fined, and also possibly suspended and lose game checks, than offensive players do. Should their pay be higher to cover this risk?
This post was edited on 11/12/15 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 11/12/15 at 4:02 pm to Eighteen
quote:yep they should
Defensive players have so many opportunities to be fined, and also possibly suspended and lose game checks, than offensive players do. Should their pay be higher to cover this risk?
Posted on 11/12/15 at 4:03 pm to sicboy
quote:
Vikings coach Mike Zimmer was furious about the hit, which knocked Bridgewater out of the game. But Rams coach Jeff Fisher said Zimmer should have controlled his emotion.
Jeff Fisher is in fact a tool though.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 5:01 pm to sicboy
quote:
Can anyone fill me in on the random numbers? I assume it's a percentage of something...
All of the numbers derive from a minimum fine of $2500 established by the CBA. Each year, the minimum fine increases by 5%, starting with the 2013 season.
$2500x1.05=2625 was minimum for 2013 season
$2625x1.05=2756.25 was minimum fine for 2014 season
$2756.25x1.05= $2,894
Note all fines are multiples of $2,894, sometimes +/-$1, sometimes not:
example:
quote:
Joyner has been fined $23,152
$23,152 divided by $2,894 = 8
Posted on 11/12/15 at 5:07 pm to sicboy
First time I saw the hit. The very definition of targeting.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 5:11 pm to sicboy
Jeff Fisher is the greatest human being that ever lived. And if you don't believe that, watch yourself at the bottom of the pile.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 5:15 pm to sicboy
Am I understanding this properly, you get fined for a facemask? Dafuq?
Posted on 11/12/15 at 5:53 pm to KarlMalonesFlipPhone
Lol that list is ridiculous.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 6:09 pm to NHTIGER
quote:
NHTIGER
excellent post, very informative, keep up the good work :thumbsup:Posted on 11/12/15 at 7:00 pm to KarlMalonesFlipPhone
quote:
Am I understanding this properly, you get fined for a facemask?
I'd like to think it's for an egregious offense, if the league thinks it was an intentional grab. If it was for every facemask, we would have heard some grumbling from the NFLPA, right?
Posted on 11/12/15 at 8:03 pm to sicboy
wait, so now if you do a horsecollar tackle you get fined? thats crazy
Posted on 11/12/15 at 8:10 pm to slackster
quote:I abosolutely hate this crap, and don't get me started on the freaking chains. Every time they bring that out im thinking are they even holding this shite straight and perpendicular to the yard lines.
I thought this was going to be a thread on officials being careless with the spot of the football.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:50 pm to sicboy
I would be really pissed if I got fined 25k for a couple of face mask penalties. Those are almost always accidental. Why does the NFL have to get their fingers in this. It's the equivalent of stealing if you think about it.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:54 pm to sicboy
quote:
Spearing; $23,152; $46,305
The frick
Posted on 11/13/15 at 2:54 am to eddieray
i hate that face masks are personal fouls... sometimes the defender is trying to play football...
personal fouls should be things you obviously don't do in football... kicking, punching directly at an opponent
personal fouls should be things you obviously don't do in football... kicking, punching directly at an opponent
Posted on 11/13/15 at 3:02 am to Wooly
quote:
wait, so now if you do a horsecollar tackle you get fined? thats crazy
I don't think you always get fined for a horse collar or face mask or spearing or whatever. I would think the league would only enforce these fines for the serious ones and not the ones that occur in every game. Just because you get a penalty for it doesn't mean the league will enforce a fine on you.
Or at least I hope they wouldn't. Could be wrong. This is the NFL and Goodell were talking about here.
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