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The committee should have one simple rule
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:44 am
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:44 am
Maybe more than one but this rule at least:
You can't pick an at large (non conference champ) unless you also pick the champion of that conference.
Either that or just get rid of the conference championships which I don't want to happen.
This would mean this year Ohio St. couldn't go unless the Wisky/PState winner went too. Screw all this "pick the better team" There should be some kind of incentive to win your conference
You can't pick an at large (non conference champ) unless you also pick the champion of that conference.
Either that or just get rid of the conference championships which I don't want to happen.
This would mean this year Ohio St. couldn't go unless the Wisky/PState winner went too. Screw all this "pick the better team" There should be some kind of incentive to win your conference
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:53 am to Tiger1242
Disagree. Pick the best team
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:57 am to Tiger1242
I don't know how the committee could take Osu over PSU. This is where the "eye" test only helps the blue bloods. If OSU is the best 2nd best team in the country then why didn't they win their division.
They want to discount OSU loss to PSU but they don't want to give PSU credit for a close loss to Pitt on the road in rivalry game that had not been played in years.
They want to discount OSU loss to PSU but they don't want to give PSU credit for a close loss to Pitt on the road in rivalry game that had not been played in years.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 7:59 am to D011ahbi11
I just keep imagining I'm Penn State, if I beat Wisky I technically had a better season than OSU. I beat them heads up, won the division over them, and won the conference.
I'd be pissed that they now get to go on to the playoff and I don't
I'd be pissed that they now get to go on to the playoff and I don't
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:00 am to Tiger1242
Conference champions are based on an archaic, arbitrary division of teams within a league and it should have little to no bearing on determining the best four teams.
In years where the SEC West was amazing and the East was terrible (or vice versa) there were muktiple teams better in one division than the best in the other division. Conference championships are a simpleton way to view the world.
In years where the SEC West was amazing and the East was terrible (or vice versa) there were muktiple teams better in one division than the best in the other division. Conference championships are a simpleton way to view the world.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:01 am to Oddibe
It's total resume and the PSU 39 pt loss, coupled with OSU beating the B12 champ on the road is going to go a long way the other way. We need to realize conference championships in football are about the same as basketball -- they help for playoff positioning, but don't mean much in the long run.
I'll tell you what, though. If Wash and Clem lose, Michigan has some pretty good arguments over the Wiscy/PSU winner (and Colorado) when OSU also gets in.
I'll tell you what, though. If Wash and Clem lose, Michigan has some pretty good arguments over the Wiscy/PSU winner (and Colorado) when OSU also gets in.
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 8:03 am
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:02 am to Tiger1242
You lost an extra game than them so you didn't have a "better" season.
The biggest upvote for PSU is the head to head win over OSU. The conference championship would just mean they best another quality opponent but it isn't the definition of success as I view it.
The biggest upvote for PSU is the head to head win over OSU. The conference championship would just mean they best another quality opponent but it isn't the definition of success as I view it.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:04 am to D011ahbi11
quote:well the best team would be Penn State because of head to head. IF OSU goes over PSU this whole deal is a shame.
Disagree. Pick the best team
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:08 am to Bunk Moreland
quote:
We need to realize conference championships in football are about the same as basketball -- they help for playoff positioning, but don't mean much in the long run.
Wow
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:08 am to Tiger1242
All these threads do a great job of legitimizing that 49th state literacy ranking
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 8:10 am
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:09 am to lynxcat
quote:
In years where the SEC West was amazing and the East was terrible (or vice versa) there were muktiple teams better in one division than the best in the other division.
2011 is a great example of this
the SEC west may have had 3 of the 5 or 6 best teams in CFB
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:11 am to D011ahbi11
quote:
Pick the best team
PSU proved they were the better team on the field.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:11 am to Tiger1242
I feel you MUST pick conference champions. However if there is not 4 conference champions with 2 or less losses among the p5 then you must select a g5 conference champion that is undefeated.
ONLY if neither 4 p5 conference champions and 0 g5 undefeated champions should an at large non conference champion be allowed to get in.
Also Notre Dame, Army, and any other independents must go undefeated to ever have even a chance to get in.
ONLY if neither 4 p5 conference champions and 0 g5 undefeated champions should an at large non conference champion be allowed to get in.
Also Notre Dame, Army, and any other independents must go undefeated to ever have even a chance to get in.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:13 am to D011ahbi11
quote:
Pick the best team
This whole philosophy is a huge knock to the legitimacy of every NCAA 'championship' at least from the BCS on. A committee selects the teams that they think are the best? There's no rule about having to win your division, conference, or have a better record? And only 4 teams are chosen? What a farce.
No legitimate sports league should depend on a committee picking who they think looks the best. That would be like throwing the Pats into the Superbowl last year after losing to the Broncos in the playoffs. "But, but, but they look like the best team!" Give me a break.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:15 am to Tiger1242
I will disagree with that as long as conferences still have divisions.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:16 am to gorillacoco
I don't give a shite about just a conference championship.
But if your conference champion won your division and also beat you head to head, they need to make the playoff before you.
That's just how I view it.
But if your conference champion won your division and also beat you head to head, they need to make the playoff before you.
That's just how I view it.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:16 am to Tiger1242
quote:So we could have a Florida (3 loss), Wisconsin/Penn State (2 loss), Virginia Tech (3 loss), Colorado (2 loss), and/or Oklahoma/Oklahoma State (2 loss) playoff while one loss teams like Ohio State (has beaten 2 of those teams) and Alabama are left out, as well as a 2 loss Michigan team who has beaten 3 of those teams?
You can't pick an at large (non conference champ) unless you also pick the champion of that conference.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:18 am to ReauxlTide222
quote:So you would have been OK with Alabama being left out last year IF Arkansas didn't convert a crazy 4th and 25 against Ole Miss (0.1% chance of winning before play started)?
But if your conference champion won your division and also beat you head to head, they need to make the playoff before you.
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:23 am to buckeye_vol
I would have been ok with literally anything after Ole Miss beat Alabama. Every single Alabama fan on this site started rooting for Ole Miss to lose 2 SEC games so Alabama could get back to Atlanta. We knew that's what had to happen.
Would have put them at 11-2 and 7-1 in the SEC with a win over Alabama, the division title, and SEC title.
They would have 100% deserved to make it in ahead of Alabama. Hopefully Alabama would have made it in as well, though.
Would have put them at 11-2 and 7-1 in the SEC with a win over Alabama, the division title, and SEC title.
They would have 100% deserved to make it in ahead of Alabama. Hopefully Alabama would have made it in as well, though.
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 8:26 am
Posted on 11/29/16 at 8:23 am to buckeye_vol
What is the benefit of having divisions? Just get rid of them and the conference championship becomes undeniably important again. Conference schedule becomes more fair too.
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