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The best way to run a golf scramble for no cheating
Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:12 am
Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:12 am
3 players on a team. 2 teams on each hole. Other team keeps the score. Has anybody played in one of these?
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:14 am to tigerskin
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3 players on a team. 2 teams on each hole.
I hope nobody is playing behind you.Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:16 am to Commandeaux
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I hope nobody is playing behind you.
Generally, in a scramble, you'd have the same structure behind you.
This really isn't an issue.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:24 am to tigerskin
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3 players on a team. 2 teams on each hole. Other team keeps the score. Has anybody played in one of these?
Catholic High tried this with their annual golf tournament 2 years ago. It was a disaster and drove off some long time players the following year. It took 6 hours to play a round of golf this way.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:27 am to LeonPhelps
I bet the cheaters didn't like it.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:30 am to LeonPhelps
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It took 6 hours to play a round of golf this way.
no way
Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:40 am to tigerskin
Every team should bring a score keeper for the group in front of there group. Only way it works
Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:41 am to LeonPhelps
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It was a disaster and drove off some long time players the following year.
Probably the guys that cheat every year not wanting to be embarrassed when everyone realized they sucked.
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It took 6 hours to play a round of golf this way.
If it's sturctured at all this won't happen. It's pretty damn difficult to play a 6 hour long round of golf.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:42 am to tigerskin
quote:so six players and four galf carts? sounds like a bad idea...how about two person per team, two teams per hole?
3 players on a team. 2 teams on each hole.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:45 am to Commandeaux
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I hope nobody is playing behind you.
this is done all the time. If you need to play and get out in 4 hours, you shouldn't be playing in a scramble anyway.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:51 am to tigerskin
There's a special place in hell for people that cheat in charity scrambles.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:55 am to Chicken
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so six players and four galf carts? sounds like a bad idea...how about two person per team, two teams per hole?
You can do 3 carts and just have one guy from each team share a cart.
And two-person scrambles, while fun when the quality of the golfers is high, is an absolute cluster when you have two 20 handicappers playing together.
The best way to speed things up is play "par is your friend". Having teams line up an eight footer for bogey is what kills the pace.
This post was edited on 12/8/15 at 11:57 am
Posted on 12/8/15 at 12:06 pm to Golfer
Yeah, we played in one once where a team that beat us clearly cheated (and apparently does so every year). We shot a 56 on a par 72 (not perfect, but still some pretty solid golf) and lost to a bunch of guys who struggle to break 80. It's just embarrassing to me, that people feel the need to win that badly that they'll cheat in a charity event.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 12:09 pm to Dawgsontop34
One way I've seen tournaments discourage cheating is to actually break the tie for first place with a playoff. Everyone hangs around, follows the two groups out to the first tee, and you'll see very quickly if either or both of them pencil whipped their opponents.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 12:17 pm to Golfer
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One way I've seen tournaments discourage cheating is to actually break the tie for first place with a playoff. Everyone hangs around, follows the two groups out to the first tee, and you'll see very quickly if either or both of them pencil whipped their opponents.
Though it takes a while to settle, this is a good way to do it.
I played in a tournament several years ago that did this. Two teams supposedly shot -20 and both teams went out and made par on the first playoff hole. Everyone watching booed and they called off the playoff. The teams claimed they were too drunk to play like they played earlier and decided to split the 1st and 2nd place prizes among themselves. One team didn't even hit the green (410yd par 4) and they other had a 40+ foot birdie putt.
This post was edited on 12/8/15 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 12/8/15 at 12:20 pm to Chicken
3 carts.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 12:23 pm to tigerskin
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The best way to run a golf scramble for no cheating
There is only one way for sure. Same as local fishing tournaments where you have to count on people to be honest
We have a local guy who runs one and it costs us about $350 for him to come test a few people at the local events.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 12:24 pm to LanierSpots
Are u serious?
Posted on 12/8/15 at 12:28 pm to tigerskin
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Are u serious?
The fishing tournaments for the big game prizes usually require a lie-detector. I wouldn't be surprised to see the same for some of the scrambles or 4-balls where there may be a $10k+ prize for first place.
No need to do it for the St. Vincent dePaul scramble at Webb Park, though.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 12:29 pm to tigerskin
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Are u serious?
Absolutely. A lot of local tournament trails use them. Lots of money in those tournaments and it is very easy for people to cheat. Most of the time I believe, the fear of being tested keeps the cheats away. But guys have been caught by it.
Usually they test the winners, the big fish guy and a random couple of guys who draw checks.
I have been tested about 5 times in my life. It is a very uncomfortable feeling.
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