The Baylor/TCU refs just made up a rule

Egregious

I saw in the Oregon game the refs called "illegal defensive call that impeded the offensive call"


The announcers just laughed and never tried to explain what the hell they were talking about

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Did it change again after this change?

NCAA 11-12 Changes

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Goal Line Plane Extension changed.
Now the Goal line plane runs between the pylons, and includes the entire pylon. The plane no longer exists beyond the pylons except in two specific cases: (a) When a ball carrier touches the pylon, and (b) when the ball carrier touches the ground in the end zone.
Examples: Play #1: The ball carrier dives for the corner of the end zone, leaping at the one yard line. The ball - in his possession: (a) touches the pylon; (b) goes over the top of the pylon; or (c) crosses the goal line inside the pylon. The player then first touches the ground three yards beyond the goal line out of bounds. Ruling: Touchdown in all three instances. The ball broke the plane of the goal line in the player's possession.
Play #2: The player heads for the right pylon of the goal line. At the two yard line he dives or is blocked into the air by an opponent. The ball – in his right hand – crosses the sideline at the one yd/line and passes outside the pylon. Then the runner while air born (a) touches the pylon with his foot or left hand; or (b) first touches the ground three yards beyond the goal line out of bounds. Ruling: In (a), Touchdown, since the plane is extended because the player touched the pylon. In (b), the plane is NOT extended, because the player did not touch the pylon or the ground in the end zone. The ball is out of bounds at the one yd/line. No Touchdown.
Play #3: The ball carrier heads for the right pylon of the goal line. The ball in his right hand crosses the extension of the goal line outside (to the right of) the pylon. The runner is (a) deemed to have stepped on the goal line; or (b) deemed to have stepped on the side line inches from the goal line. Ruling: Touchdown in (a) since the plane is extended by touching the ground in the end zone. In (b) there is no touchdown because the player did not touch the pylon nor did he touch the ground in the end zone. The goal line is NOT extended. The ball is ruled out of bounds at the point of crossing the side line.
Play #4: The ball carrier heads for the right pylon of the goal line with the ball in his right hand. His foot hits the pylon just before the ball (a) crosses the pylon; or (b) crosses the extension of the goal line outside the pylon. Ruling: (a) and (b) No touchdown in either case. Because the pylon is out of bounds, the ball is dead once the runner's foot hits the pylon. Thus the ball is dead in both cases before it crosses the goal line or the side line.
Play #5: The ball carrier is hit and his forward progress is stopped inbounds near the goal line at the side line to his right. When he is stopped, the ball is in his right hand extended beyond the goal line (a) inside the pylon; or (b) outside the pylon. Ruling: In (a) the ball extended inside the pylon across the goal line creates a touchdown and the ball is dead at that point. In (b) no part of his body touched the pylon or the ground in the end zone. In this case the plane is NOT extended for a touchdown. The ball is dead short of the goal line.

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I thought your example was the same as "B" below .btw, I did not see the play, so I'm not fighting with you.

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Play #2: The player heads for the right pylon of the goal line. At the two yard line he dives or is blocked into the air by an opponent. The ball – in his right hand – crosses the sideline at the one yd/line and passes outside the pylon. Then the runner while air born (a) touches the pylon with his foot or left hand; or (b) first touches the ground three yards beyond the goal line out of bounds. Ruling: In (a), Touchdown, since the plane is extended because the player touched the pylon. In (b), the plane is NOT extended, because the player did not touch the pylon or the ground in the end zone. The ball is out of bounds at the one yd/line. No Touchdown.

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ETa: after reading your OP, it does sound like B. Which ends in a no touchdown

That's not what happened in the game. The runner actually stepped on the goal line in bounds.

The player crossed the goal line in bounds

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The runner actually stepped on the goal line in bounds

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Yup, with his left foot, then his right foot hit the pylon.

If the ball didn't break the front of the goal line, he must have been movin' like Bernie into the endzone.

This rule is not new to me. They didn't make this up.

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Play #3: The ball carrier heads for the right pylon of the goal line. The ball in his right hand crosses the extension of the goal line outside (to the right of) the pylon. The runner is (a) deemed to have stepped on the goal line; or (b) deemed to have stepped on the side line inches from the goal line. Ruling: Touchdown in (a) since the plane is extended by touching the ground in the end zone. In (b) there is no touchdown because the player did not touch the pylon nor did he touch the ground in the end zone. The goal line is NOT extended. The ball is ruled out of bounds at the point of crossing the side line.

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This appears to most closely apply to the situation. And as I read it, since the runner touched down on the goal line, the plane is extended beyond the boundary.

Apologies for being late on this.

I watched that play last night and thought that it was an easy TD call. Then when it went to replay I thought it would be called a TD.

I was very surprised that it was not ruled a TD.

For those that didn't see. The offensive player had the ball, and was running towards the right pylon. He was in bounds and a bit ahead of the pylon (most of his body was in the end zone when the side of his foot touched the inner part of the pylon.

The runner was not diving, simply running and had the ball extended in his right hand to the side of him as he crossed the goal line (so the ball went over the pylon without touching it).


The call reminded me of the Vick ballard run vs auburn a few years ago.. the difference being ballard dove and while in the air was kinda pushed out of bounds. so he was not in the field of play as he passed the goal line in the air.