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tDecline of Clayton Kershaw Continues
Posted on 8/28/15 at 11:35 pm
Posted on 8/28/15 at 11:35 pm
went 8 innings. had 14 strikeouts. gave up 3 hits, one run, one walk
stats for the season:
2.24 ERA 2.10 FIP 2.09 xFIP .90 WHIP 11.48 K/9 7.15 K/BB
stats for the season:
2.24 ERA 2.10 FIP 2.09 xFIP .90 WHIP 11.48 K/9 7.15 K/BB
This post was edited on 8/28/15 at 11:36 pm
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Posted on 8/28/15 at 11:37 pm to WestCoastAg
Yeah these threads aren't funny anymore. Kershaw good we know
Posted on 8/28/15 at 11:37 pm to WestCoastAg
0 SEC Championships
Posted on 8/28/15 at 11:38 pm to WestCoastAg
As a Dodgers fan, who do you think should win Cy Young: Kershaw or Greinke?
Posted on 8/28/15 at 11:39 pm to WestCoastAg
Dude might as well hang it up. If I were the Dodgers, I'd cut my losses now.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 11:41 pm to WestCoastAg
Can't beat the Astros though
Posted on 8/28/15 at 11:42 pm to The Seaward
its close id give it to kershaw. he has a better fip and xfip, is worth a full win more with fWAR, and not only strikes out a lot more batters, but he also has a much better K/BB ratio. however, what makes it tough is that greinke has a much better era and era+
This post was edited on 8/28/15 at 11:43 pm
Posted on 8/28/15 at 11:42 pm to Harry Caray
he was winning the game when he left 
Posted on 8/28/15 at 11:48 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:
its close id give it to kershaw. he has a better fip and xfip, is worth a full win more with fWAR, and not only strikes out a lot more batters, but he also has a much better K/BB ratio. however, what makes it tough is that greinke has a much better era and era+
Fair enough, I can see that. I think Kershaw is definitely the better pitcher, but I they are basically a coin flip for the Cy. I don't think there is an objectively correct answer between the two.
This post was edited on 8/28/15 at 11:49 pm
Posted on 8/29/15 at 12:07 am to The Seaward
thats where im at. they are the two front runners and whoever gets it, it will be deserved
Posted on 8/29/15 at 12:10 am to WestCoastAg
Agreed. And as great as deGrom, Arrieta, Bumgarner, Cole, and Scherzer have been, I don't think there is an argument for anyone other than Kershaw or Greinke at this point.
This post was edited on 8/29/15 at 12:11 am
Posted on 8/29/15 at 12:14 am to WestCoastAg
you might be the worst poster on this here board
Posted on 8/29/15 at 12:18 am to Lester Earl
yea probably. it is what it is
Posted on 8/29/15 at 12:36 am to WestCoastAg
FIP is based on outcomes that don't have to do with defense, correct?
I agree that the pitcher has no control what happens to the batter once the ball is put in play. However, that stat doesn't account for how hard and well-struck the ball is put in play, right?
So, I mean, if a dude is allowing rockets off the bat, FIP doesn't penalize him at all for that. And I'm to believe that the pitcher that allows more hard-hit balls is going to allow more hits, all things considered.
I agree that the pitcher has no control what happens to the batter once the ball is put in play. However, that stat doesn't account for how hard and well-struck the ball is put in play, right?
So, I mean, if a dude is allowing rockets off the bat, FIP doesn't penalize him at all for that. And I'm to believe that the pitcher that allows more hard-hit balls is going to allow more hits, all things considered.
Posted on 8/29/15 at 1:50 am to The Seaward
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Agreed. And as great as deGrom, Arrieta, Bumgarner, Cole, and Scherzer have been, I don't think there is an argument for anyone other than Kershaw or Greinke at this point.
MadBum = 16 wins
Arrieta = 16 wins
Greinke = 14 wins
Kershaw = 11 wins
checkmate atheists
This post was edited on 8/29/15 at 1:53 am
Posted on 8/29/15 at 2:09 am to WestCoastAg
Why not bump the good thread that covers this?
Posted on 8/29/15 at 2:21 am to BayouBengals03
There's a stat that somewhat covers that. It's called siera. It takes the three outcomes like fip, but also accounts for groundball rate and it uses those numbers to make a prediction of what the pitchers ERA should. look like
Kershaws is 2.26, greinkes is 3.19
Kershaws is 2.26, greinkes is 3.19
Posted on 8/29/15 at 2:21 am to lsu480
Cause that shite got anchored :(
This post was edited on 8/29/15 at 2:22 am
Posted on 8/29/15 at 2:46 am to The Seaward
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As a Dodgers fan, who do you think should win Cy Young: Kershaw or Greinke?
My boy Degrom.
Posted on 8/29/15 at 4:05 am to WestCoastAg
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went 8 innings. had 14 strikeouts. gave up 3 hits, one run, one walk
When he does this in a playoff game....Let me know.
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