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Roughneck
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Stark Article: Never been anything like Mariano Rivera in the history of Sports

Just a snippet of a fantastic article:
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Think about this, ladies and gentlemen. Mariano Rivera is older than Benny Agbayani -- and he's leading the American League in saves.

He's older than Darren Dreifort -- and he has a sub-1.00 WHIP (0.92).

He's older than Rich Garces -- and he's ripped off 17 saves in 17 opportunities. (*UPDATED with last night's save*)

He's older than Carlos Perez -- and those poor hitters who face him are batting .118 (2-for-17, with seven strikeouts) when, by some miracle, there's a runner in scoring position.
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re: Stark Article: Never been anything like Mariano Rivera in the history of Sports
dude is an absolute monster


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oleyeller
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re: Stark Article: Never been anything like Mariano Rivera in the history of Sports
overrated stat "saves"
overrated position "closing pitcher"
This post was edited on 5/21 at 9:26 am


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zzemme
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re: Stark Article: Never been anything like Mariano Rivera in the history of Sports
He is truly incredible


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Choupique19
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re: Stark Article: Never been anything like Mariano Rivera in the history of Sports
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overrated stat "saves"


Sure

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overrated position "closing pitcher"


You couldn't be more wrong


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CQQ
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re: Stark Article: Never been anything like Mariano Rivera in the history of Sports
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overrated stat "saves"


Meh, in some cases, I agree. In the case of Mariano, he's just the GOAT.


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craigbiggio
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CptBengal
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re: Stark Article: Never been anything like Mariano Rivera in the history of Sports
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overrated position "closing pitcher"



wow.


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re: Stark Article: Never been anything like Mariano Rivera in the history of Sports
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overrated stat "saves"
overrated position "closing pitcher"


There may be a shred of credibility to these statements, if that much.

But regardless of how you feel about the stats and the position, Rivera is not overrated and his impact on the Yankees throughout his career can not be over stated.

And I hate the fricking Yankees.


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lsutigers1992
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re: Stark Article: Never been anything like Mariano Rivera in the history of Sports
He's the best of his era, but it's much easier now in the era of the 6-pitch save than it was in the era of the 2-inning save.


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re: Stark Article: Never been anything like Mariano Rivera in the history of Sports
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He's the best of his era, but it's much easier now in the era of the 6-pitch save than it was in the era of the 2-inning save


It's not his fault that managers have figured out how to use a pitching staff more effectively as time has gone on.


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Mo Jeaux
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re: Stark Article: Never been anything like Mariano Rivera in the history of Sports
He is amazing. I thought he was too old and should have retired around 2002-2003. Yeah, I'm an idiot.


ShaneTheLegLechler
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re: Stark Article: Never been anything like Mariano Rivera in the history of Sports
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overrated stat "saves" overrated position "closing pitcher"


While in general I agree with these statements, Rivera is one of a kind. He is so far above the average closer that he is the exception to these statements
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Pilot Tiger
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re: Stark Article: Never been anything like Mariano Rivera in the history of Sports
.70 postseason ERA in 140+ innings

again, that's insane


DeltaDoc
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re: Stark Article: Never been anything like Mariano Rivera in the history of Sports
I watched him close out Baltimore last night. He is amazing to watch...by that, I mean I have no clue why he is as effective as he is.

His cutter was between 89-90 mph. He hit 91 once. Many of the pitches for strikes (which was probably 80%) were simply watched by the batter...never got the bat off the shoulder.

To an admittedly untrained eye, it seems like these hitters...the best in the world...should be eating him alive.

He throws two pitches...one of which he throws 90% of the time.


Pilot Tiger
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re: Stark Article: Never been anything like Mariano Rivera in the history of Sports
some pitchers have a pitch that guys just can't hit even when they know it's coming

It's what makes the great ones, great


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BROffshoreTigerFan
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one of which he throws 90% of the time.


90% of the time it works every time.



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Srbtiger06
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re: Stark Article: Never been anything like Mariano Rivera in the history of Sports
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overrated stat "saves"


Eh...maybe.

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overrated position "closing pitcher"


If you look at it in a vaccuum then sure. A guy like Mo is invaluable though. How many guys perform their job at that high of a level, that consistently, for that long?

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He is amazing. I thought he was too old and should have retired around 2002-2003. Yeah, I'm an idiot.


Every time I think it is almost time, he comes out and goes on a tear. I really don't want him to retire just to see how long he can go.


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re: Stark Article: Never been anything like Mariano Rivera in the history of Sports
Got to go to Mo


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