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re: So Tyronn Lue really has no idea what he is doing

Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:53 am to
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:53 am to
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According to yours and Shel's own argument, he has zero help
Still doing that thing where you say things I never said or insinuated, I see.




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So for consistency's sake, you would have to be wrong.

How so? 3 years, 1 title, twice losing in the Finals. How would that NOT be considered the 2nd best team in the league over that 3 year span?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110654 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:54 am to
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Most shots I see him taking are 3-5 feet behind the perimeter.
And seem to be contested. I don't recall many very open looks for him this series.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:55 am to
He's slow.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:55 am to
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Still doing that thing where you say things I never said or insinuated, I see.


That was the whole fricking argument

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How so? 3 years, 1 title, twice losing in the Finals. How would that NOT be considered the 2nd best team in the league over that 3 year span?


I just told you. Name some of the moves he made that got them to the finals since that's what GM's are judged by.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:03 am to
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Name some of the moves he made that got them to the finals since that's what GM's are judged by.

He signed the best player in the league, he then also signed another perennial all star


I would say that is pretty solid GMing
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:10 am to
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He signed the best player in the leagu

no he didn't. You can't claim signing yourself. He wasn't GM when he signed.

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he then also signed another perennial all star


No he traded Wiggins for Love.

So you're saying he's the second best GM in the league by making one fairly even trade
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110654 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:22 am to
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That was the whole fricking argument

Nope, I never said or insinuated that LeBron had no help. You're wrong.

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Name some of the moves he made that got them to the finals since that's what GM's are judged by.
Wiggins for Love.
Posted by TigerMan327
Elsewhere
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:23 am to
He made the trade to get mozgov, shumpert, and jr smith and it payed off. Also was able to trade for Korver on the cheap and sign deron Williams for cheap. Next?
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:28 am to
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GM Lebron asked for this....
Remember that one time a GM fired a coach before the playoffs and got some rookie coach and then that GM went and dominated the finals and had more points assists rebounds blocks and steals than any player in the entire series?
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:30 am to
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Wiggins for Love.


Lol Give that man an award!
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:33 am to
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He made the trade to get mozgov, shumpert, and jr smith and it payed off. Also was able to trade for Korver

You think those moves make him the second best GM in the league?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110654 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:35 am to
Moved off of the "LeBron has no help" line you attributed to me.

Good move on your part, appreciate it.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110654 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:37 am to
There are 2 players still on CLE from the 2014 team, Kyrie and Tristan Thompson. Everyone else on the team came to the team after LeBron.

So, by your logic(feel free to say otherwise) the only way LeBron is not a bad GM is for him to create arguably the greatest team of all time? I'm not sure I follow.

3 seasons, 1 title, losing to one of the greatest teams we've ever seen. Is Cleveland not the 2nd best team in the NBA over the past 3 seasons?
Posted by theducks
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:49 am to
From what I've read from the Cavs fans (shel mostly) is not that LeBron needs more help, it's that the team they're playing is virtually impossible to beat in a 7 game series.
Posted by Weagle25
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:50 am to
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Moved off of the "LeBron has no help" line you attributed to me.


No point in arguing it with you. What were my two posts that you argued? Laughing at a guy who said Cavs need to open their wallet and get Lebron some damn help. And drunk up the Lebron has no help narrative.

No further comment needed.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110654 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:52 am to
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No point in arguing it with you
Especially when you attribute things to me that I never said, that would be a weird thing to argue, ya know, since I never said LeBron has no help.

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No further comment needed.
Except, again, do better next time, be less wrong.
Posted by Weagle25
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:53 am to
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So, by your logic(feel free to say otherwise) the only way LeBron is not a bad GM is for him to create arguably the greatest team of all time? I'm not sure I follow.

Changing the argument again. You seem to do that a lot.
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Is Cleveland not the 2nd best team in the NBA over the past 3 seasons?

Again a different argument. He inherited Kyrie, Thompson, and himself.

He hasn't made good enough moves to claim he's the 2nd best GM in the league.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110654 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:53 am to
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it's that the team they're playing is virtually impossible to beat in a 7 game series.
Basically that, but because of that...

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From what I've read from the Cavs fans (shel mostly) is not that LeBron needs more help
They certainly need more help if they want to beat this team that is arguably the GOAT team.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110654 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:55 am to
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Changing the argument again. You seem to do that a lot.

Like saying I said "LeBron has no help" type changing the argument?
Posted by Weagle25
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Member since Oct 2011
46176 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 12:00 pm to
The post I originally argued:

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Wouldnt you say he is currently the 2nd best GM in the NBA? Thats bad?



Followed by my posts that include:

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So you're saying he's the second best GM in the league by making one fairly even trade


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You think those moves make him the second best GM in the league?


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He hasn't made good enough moves to claim he's the 2nd best GM in the league.


But I'm sure you think I'm arguing something else
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