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re: Ricky Watters: Hall of Fame worthy?
Posted on 8/13/08 at 1:13 pm to juggler
Posted on 8/13/08 at 1:13 pm to juggler
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And I for one really liked him as a player...but I would've never even considered him for the HOF. The NFL is pretty loose anyway on its HOF, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
Why even post if you have no idea what you're talking about?
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Posted on 8/13/08 at 1:15 pm to reddman
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Where do Notre Dame and the 49ers rank on your most hated teams list?
No hate. I used to love Waters and defended him many times. But like I said, I would've never even thought about him getting into the hall.
Posted on 8/13/08 at 1:19 pm to Augustus
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The reasoning that the commentators on the show gave for him not being in it were:
1) The current RB's in the HOF all have "defining moments". Watters, in their opinion, didn't have one.
2) The "For Who, For What?" incident.
Yeah, the NFL HOF is fickle like that, kinda lame imo. He did have 3 TDs in the beatdown of the Chargers. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he was one of the first guys to really be a running and receiving threat, especially in the 49ers west coast system.
His stats only look better if you take out his final year where he had ~80 touches in 5 games.
How many people "fearded" Curtis Martin? I think he gets in.
Posted on 8/13/08 at 1:21 pm to LuckyLee
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How many people "fearded" Curtis Martin? I think he gets in.
I don't think Curtis Martin belongs either.
This post was edited on 8/13/08 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 8/13/08 at 1:23 pm to juggler
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I don't think Curtis Martin belongs either.
He's #4 in career rushing yards. You gonna leave out Bettis too?
Posted on 8/13/08 at 1:23 pm to LuckyLee
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but he was one of the first guys to really be a running and receiving threat, especially in the 49ers west coast system.
Roger Craig was doing it before Watters.
Posted on 8/13/08 at 1:24 pm to LuckyLee
My thought is that he was part of a trio consisting of Young and Rice and RW. When two belong, it's natural to think the third does. I thought RW was good, but IMO you should be truly special to be in the HOF. He wasn't that.
Posted on 8/13/08 at 1:26 pm to LuckyLee
Curtis Martin has longevity going for him, but I can't call him one of the greatest NFL players of all time.
I would put Bettis in before Martin fwiw.
I would put Bettis in before Martin fwiw.
Posted on 8/13/08 at 1:37 pm to juggler
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Roger Craig was doing it before Watters.
Exactly what I was thinking.
Posted on 8/13/08 at 1:49 pm to Bankshot
How about Terrell Davis? Definitely doesn't have the career numbers, but he had "moments."
Posted on 8/13/08 at 2:00 pm to LuckyLee
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How about Terrell Davis?
He's an interesting case. Was definitely on the fast track, but lack of longevity kills him.
Posted on 8/13/08 at 2:03 pm to juggler
I think less RBs should get in the Hall from this current period.
The stats are all inflated for RBs right now.
The stats are all inflated for RBs right now.
Posted on 8/13/08 at 2:05 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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The stats are all inflated for RBs right now
I can somewhat agree due to the 16 week schedule. But more teams are going to dual RBs and more passing. So who knows.
Posted on 8/13/08 at 2:08 pm to Kafka
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I've never understood why Alex Karras isn't in. He must've alienated some influential people...
Someone told me that there was a gambling issue with him at some point in the past.
Posted on 8/13/08 at 2:12 pm to Bankshot
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I've never understood why Alex Karras isn't in. He must've alienated some influential people...
Someone told me that there was a gambling issue with him at some point in the past.
Hornung isn't in?
Posted on 8/13/08 at 2:14 pm to Bankshot
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Someone told me that there was a gambling issue with him at some point in the past
He and Paul Hornung were suspended for the 1963 season by Pete Roselle.Hornung was orginally thought to be a first ballot entrant,but he didn't get in until '84 or so. Not really that many Lions in the HOF,so there goes that argument.Karras certainly should be in.
Posted on 8/13/08 at 2:17 pm to Augustus
Negative.
Posted on 8/13/08 at 4:25 pm to Augustus
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2) The "For Who, For What?" incident.
Posted on 8/14/08 at 12:52 am to blueboy
Watters' defining moment.....Alligator arming passes with the Eagles. Very overrated player. Not a HOF...as well as Chad Johnson. All hype team though.
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