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Redskins place franchise tag on Kirk Cousins. Again
Posted on 2/28/17 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 2/28/17 at 1:15 pm
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Because it's the exclusive tag, Cousins can't negotiate with other teams. The Redskins can still trade the quarterback, if they choose to, but in that scenario the Redskins would have to grant Cousins permission to talk to other teams and work out a long-term deal before a trade likely would be completed. If he were to be traded, Cousins' preferred destination is the San Francisco 49ers, according to a source close to the quarterback, as he loved playing for new 49ers coach Kyle Shanahan when Shanahan was the Redskins' offensive coordinator and really likes his system.
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Posted on 2/28/17 at 1:33 pm to RedRifle
That just means if we do give him along term deal it's going to be worth 20+ million a year
How the frick is Kirk going to bank like 120 million in a long team deal.
He's already set for life with these back to back franchise tags
How the frick is Kirk going to bank like 120 million in a long team deal.
He's already set for life with these back to back franchise tags
Posted on 2/28/17 at 1:42 pm to RedRifle
That dreaded position where you can't really get anyone better, at least not easily or guaranteed better. But he's not worth anywhere near his asking price.
I don't envy being in that position, but I would not sign him long term.
I don't envy being in that position, but I would not sign him long term.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 1:45 pm to shel311
I wanna say I read something where most players hate the franchise tag, but because of the tag Cousins will make more than any player in league history over a four year period, is that correct?
Just insane how much the dude has used that rule to his advantage.
Just insane how much the dude has used that rule to his advantage.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 1:49 pm to StraightCashHomey21
He will make $24 million on the franchise tag this year, if they tag him next year it is $34.6 million. If he has a pretty good season where he throws for 4700 yards 28 td and 10 int , the starting point for any long term deal will be 24 mil AAV and over 60 mil fully gtd. If he hits the open market he will get close the largest deal in NFL history and more guaranteed than anybody else
Posted on 2/28/17 at 1:50 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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@adamrank
Paying $24M for Kirk Cousins is akin to paying $11 for an airport beer. I mean, you don't want to pay that much, but you have no choice.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 1:51 pm to shel311
I think this will actually work in his favor long term. He gets two years of big time guaranteed money from being franchise tagged. Then, next year, he will get another huge sum of guaranteed money with his new deal (assuming he plays well another year).
I think he made $20M last year with the tag. That means he will make $24M this year guaranteed. If they tag him a third year, then they will have to pay him like 32M. So assuming he plays decent this year, then I think he is set.
ETA: Seems like BobCoot beat me to my point!
I think he made $20M last year with the tag. That means he will make $24M this year guaranteed. If they tag him a third year, then they will have to pay him like 32M. So assuming he plays decent this year, then I think he is set.
ETA: Seems like BobCoot beat me to my point!
This post was edited on 2/28/17 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 2/28/17 at 2:02 pm to BlueMoon
quote:Damn, he said the same thing as me, just much better.
@adamrank
Paying $24M for Kirk Cousins is akin to paying $11 for an airport beer. I mean, you don't want to pay that much, but you have no choice.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 2:26 pm to RedRifle
Kirk Cousins has the most leverage in the NFL right now. Imagine that.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 2:27 pm to Bunk Moreland
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Yahoo shredded them for this.
I mean, with the advantage of hindsight, I'm sure the Redskins would love to have signed him long term last offseason.
At the time, it wasn't at all obvious that that was the right call.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 2:28 pm to FootballNostradamus
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I wanna say I read something where most players hate the franchise tag, but because of the tag Cousins will make more than any player in league history over a four year period, is that correct?
Just insane how much the dude has used that rule to his advantage.
Cousins didn't really do anything. As with most things in DC, the problem is the Redskins are run by a bunch of idiots.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 2:29 pm to Crowknowsbest
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I mean, with the advantage of hindsight, I'm sure the Redskins would love to have signed him long term last offseason.
At the time, it wasn't at all obvious that that was the right call.
They didn't even make him a market offer. They have a ton of blame. The biggest issue was the Redskins could not have signed him last year based on their offer. $16 million per was less than he would make under the fricking tag.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 2:32 pm to therick711
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They didn't even make him a market offer.
They clearly weren't convinced that he was worth that. shite, I'm still not convinced.
Look, they took a chance and it didn't work out. At the time, he had had 0.5 good seasons. The Redskins have been a disaster for 20 years, but I can't really blame them for not wanting to pay him long term at $20m per after last season.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 2:34 pm to FootballNostradamus
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Just insane how much the dude has used that rule to his advantage.
It's not like he wanted to get hit w/a franchise tag. The Skins front office are just morons is all.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 2:36 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Look, they took a chance and it didn't work out. At the time, he had had 0.5 good seasons. The Redskins have been a disaster for 20 years, but I can't really blame them for not wanting to pay him long term at $20m per after last season.
They mismanaged the situation. There really isn't any other way to slice it. The alienated their guy, they didn't make him a market offer, and then they watched the Texans shower a stupid contract on a less accomplished quarterback. I'm not saying Cousins would have signed, but they made it real easy for him to say no by tagging him and making him a comparatively bullshite offer. No average or better quarterback is signing for $16 per in the NFL. Those days are long over. Everyone knew that except for the Skins.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 2:39 pm to therick711
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They mismanaged the situation.
If he had come out and had a bad year this season, that wouldn't be the case. Obviously, it's FUBARed knowing what we know now.
The Redskins roster wasn't and isn't in a position where they can win anything while tying up a huge chunk of their cap on Kirk Cousins for a period of 4-5 years. He's not good enough to carry them.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 2:43 pm to Crowknowsbest
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If he had come out and had a bad year this season, that wouldn't be the case. Obviously, it's FUBARed knowing what we know now.
Bruce Allen was the one that's been saying for two years now they want him signed long term. Acting like they didn't by not even approaching an offer that put any risk on Cousins was pretty stupid.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 2:44 pm to therick711
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Bruce Allen was the one that's been saying for two years now they want him signed long term. Acting like they didn't by not even approaching an offer that put any risk on Cousins was pretty stupid.
Bruce Allen is a PR mouthpiece. If they had wanted to sign him long term last offseason, they would have offered more. McCloughan is the one making personnel decisions.
This post was edited on 2/28/17 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 2/28/17 at 2:49 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Bruce Allen is a PR mouthpiece. If they had wanted to sign him long term last offseason, they would have offered more. McCloughan is the one making personnel decisions.
No argument there. Now they are in a situation where Jay Gruden is in a prove it year, and Cousins has even more leverage then he did a year ago. The Redskins once again can't decide what they want. Now, the only way to get him long term before the season is to make him the highest paid quarterback in football. Cousins has all the leverage, and the Redskins basically handed it to him.
They will forever be haunted by $16 per and $25 guaranteed. THEN they had the fricking audacity to turn around and hand Josh Norman $15 mill a year and $50 mil guaranteed!
This post was edited on 2/28/17 at 2:52 pm
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