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re: re: Cam Newton Fumble fail..............is it possible?
Posted on 2/8/16 at 11:37 am to lsupride87
Posted on 2/8/16 at 11:37 am to lsupride87
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If that is what happened then Cam is from the planet Krypton and truly is superman because he has the ability to suspend time and space and think about all that shite in the matter of a split second
I said he was already frustrated before the play. How is that a split second? He knew before the play started a first down conversion was necessary to have a good chance of winning. I don't think its a stretch to think that as the ball was falling from his hands after his lineman let him down AGAIN he realized the game was likely over and his linemen's shitty performance had put the final nail in the coffin.
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Posted on 2/8/16 at 11:39 am to lsupride87
and his falling to the ground less than 5 minutes later like a pathetic crybaby after his defense (who played their asses off all day) got called for a penalty was him strategically getting in better position to run over and rally the offensive troops on the sidelines for a comeback drive.
This post was edited on 2/8/16 at 11:40 am
Posted on 2/8/16 at 11:40 am to offshoretrash
It's simple.
There is no excuse for moving AWAY from a fumble.
There is no excuse for moving AWAY from a fumble.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 11:44 am to Stingray
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It's simple.
There is no excuse for moving AWAY from a fumble.
Exactly. Nobody trying EVER does that. It really just doesn't happen. This whole "he only had a split second to make the decision"is baffling to me. Thats all anybody ever had and they always aggressively dive on the ball, virtually without exception. It would make sense if people were arguing the exact opposite. "Yeh it would have been better for him to not dive on the ball in hindsight, but its completely unrealistic to expect a player to not aggressively react to getting a fumble." That would be a good point. A player not having enough time to realize he shouldn't candy arse on the outskirts of the action and hope the ball bounces to him is an absolutely hilarious notion.
This post was edited on 2/8/16 at 11:45 am
Posted on 2/8/16 at 11:58 am to ShortyRob
There is no doubt that if he simply flops on it with his big body - he's on top of Ware's hand and the ball and wrestles it away and saves a TD and gives Carolina a chance in the end.
But he couldn't fall on the grenade.
But he couldn't fall on the grenade.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 9:59 am to ShortyRob
wow he actually said that. Also look at the first reply
Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:17 am to ShortyRob
Bang bang plays are hard to judge.
Do I think he shied away from diving on it intentionally? No. I imagine he thought it was about to pop out of Ware's arm and wanted to be able to scramble.
Do I think he shied away from diving on it intentionally? No. I imagine he thought it was about to pop out of Ware's arm and wanted to be able to scramble.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:36 am to AubieALUMdvm
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What went through his mind we'll likely never know.
Watch it in slow motion. He initially though he could scoop up the ball. But Ware got to it a split second before he did. Cam was over the ball slightly bent over. No way for him to "fall" on it from his position. His body was already over the ball when Ware touched it. He would have had to sit butt down on the ground to grab it after Ware touched it.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:38 am to CaptainBrannigan
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No way for him to "fall" on it from his position.
bullshite
throw your legs straight back and fall straight down on the ball and he would have had possession of the ball because Ware only had his hand on the ball while Cam would have had his entire weight/body over the ball
Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:38 am to CaptainBrannigan
lolwut, he said straight from his own mouth that he did it to avoid injury.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 10:40 am to CaptainBrannigan
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Watch it in slow motion. He initially though he could scoop up the ball. But Ware got to it a split second before he did. Cam was over the ball slightly bent over. No way for him to "fall" on it from his position. His body was already over the ball when Ware touched it. He would have had to sit butt down on the ground to grab it after Ware touched it.
Give it up. There's no more defending this. He said it was to avoid injury. Straight from his mouth.
Also, your reasoning sounds good for maybe a 1 year old.
This post was edited on 2/9/16 at 10:42 am
Posted on 2/9/16 at 11:09 am to ShortyRob
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I know that video of Cam failing to jump on the ball sure looks bad. And, frankly, it's damned hard to defend.
But, it's also just exceedingly odd. I mean, that dude takes A LOT of shots. One can dislike him, but nothing up to now has ever indicated Cam is afraid of contact.
Is it possible that he saw blue out of the corner of his eye diving towards the ball and in an instant, thought HIS guy was already getting the ball?
I mean, I'm not a Carolina fan and Cam can be a douche and a half, but, this is just one of those things where the "appearance" seems so out of whack that you have to wonder if the appearance is correct.
I think he saw his teammate was about to take out his shins...
Posted on 2/9/16 at 11:49 am to bwallcubfan
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quote: Watch it in slow motion. He initially though he could scoop up the ball. But Ware got to it a split second before he did. Cam was over the ball slightly bent over. No way for him to "fall" on it from his position. His body was already over the ball when Ware touched it. He would have had to sit butt down on the ground to grab it after Ware touched it. Give it up. There's no more defending this. He said it was to avoid injury. Straight from his mouth. Also, your reasoning sounds good for maybe a 1 year old. This post was edited on 2/9 at 10:42 am
I'm not sure Cam is being truthful here, i remember clipping a guy square in the back in a high school football game, it was so obvious and flags were all over the field, to this day i have no idea or a good answer for why i did it.. Cam may have just had one of the biggest brain farts in the superbowl history
Posted on 2/9/16 at 12:02 pm to castorinho
If he really said that, that is inexcusable. No defending that statement, saying nothing would have been better than that.
This is the Super Bowl, and he is worried he might have gotten hurt. He basically admitted that he is a pussy. Guess he will be getting a tampax endorsement.
This is the Super Bowl, and he is worried he might have gotten hurt. He basically admitted that he is a pussy. Guess he will be getting a tampax endorsement.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:17 pm to AU66
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I'm not sure Cam is being truthful here, i remember clipping a guy square in the back in a high school football game, it was so obvious and flags were all over the field, to this day i have no idea or a good answer for why i did it.. Cam may have just had one of the biggest brain farts in the superbowl history
Yup, he didn't do it to avoid injury. In that situation you don't even have time to have that thought process. It makes absolutely zero sense. I mean he ran over like 9 Falcons on one play to get a first down around midfield in a game that didn't matter, same thing against Arizona in the NFCCG when they were up by like 30, and then the very next play he Superman'd from like the 5 yard line knowing he was gonna get rocked in a game that was already over. Flipped over the goal line to score a TD in September.
If there is one thing even the biggest Cam haters can not say it's that he's afraid of contact or putting his body on the line.
This post was edited on 2/9/16 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:27 pm to RandySavage
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Yup, he didn't do it to avoid injury
Not sure what other proof you'll need besides it coming directly from the guy.
I mean come on. Oh wait, you think he played well
This post was edited on 2/9/16 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:37 pm to TigerBait1127
Actions > Words
He's taken and given beatings his entire career and in the biggest moment is when all the sudden he decides it's not worth it. Common sense, it's a wonderful thing.
Played well enough to win in a defensive battle.
He's taken and given beatings his entire career and in the biggest moment is when all the sudden he decides it's not worth it. Common sense, it's a wonderful thing.
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I mean come on. Oh wait, you think he played well
Played well enough to win in a defensive battle.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:44 pm to RandySavage
We saw the action and it matched his words. He jumped back from the football
So despite the video and despite the words, you still think you're right
Keep that head in the sand
So despite the video and despite the words, you still think you're right
Keep that head in the sand
Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:45 pm to RandySavage
And all 3 games were him winning and him destroying the teams mentally and imposing them physically.
Too bad for him Miller and ware were more physical and imposed their will on him throughout the game.
Too bad for him Miller and ware were more physical and imposed their will on him throughout the game.
Posted on 2/9/16 at 1:49 pm to htran90
Interesting then that the Panthers were 3-0 this season when trailing by 10+ points, he's the architect of the greatest comeback in college football history, plus many many more that season, I'm sure I find more examples if I cared to prove you wrong that he somehow only quits when he's losing but it wouldn't matter. You obviously don't want to deal in reality.
Yea what a loser couldn't even stay upright getting hit on his blindside by defensive linemen, what a soft pansy.
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Too bad for him Miller and ware were more physical and imposed their will on him throughout the game.
Yea what a loser couldn't even stay upright getting hit on his blindside by defensive linemen, what a soft pansy.
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