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re: Rank your NBA title contenders from most likely to least likely
Posted on 1/27/15 at 10:28 am to Epic Cajun
Posted on 1/27/15 at 10:28 am to Epic Cajun
Teague has had a steady progression each of the last 5 years. He is no surprise. At all. Keeps getting better.
Horford is back. He opens up absolutely everything that the offense wants to do because he can pick and roll or pick and pop at elite levels. Impossible to guard. He makes defenses rotate, make decisions, and make mistakes. Antic is our back up center and he was hurt a lot last year as well. Elton brand was getting 30 minutes a game for a period of time.
Korver doesn't miss. Millsap is a stud. Demarre Carroll is an ideal 3 and D guy that does everything right.
The second unit is greatly improved as well. Schroder is now in his second year and is a legitimate back up point guard who plays a lot like Teague. We added sefolosha who is literally perfect coming off the bench in this system. Antic stretches the floor from the 5 spot.
They were 100% going to win 50 games with horford last year. If you honestly can't accept that, then quit wasting your time talking about the hawks because you know nothing about them.
Horford is back. He opens up absolutely everything that the offense wants to do because he can pick and roll or pick and pop at elite levels. Impossible to guard. He makes defenses rotate, make decisions, and make mistakes. Antic is our back up center and he was hurt a lot last year as well. Elton brand was getting 30 minutes a game for a period of time.
Korver doesn't miss. Millsap is a stud. Demarre Carroll is an ideal 3 and D guy that does everything right.
The second unit is greatly improved as well. Schroder is now in his second year and is a legitimate back up point guard who plays a lot like Teague. We added sefolosha who is literally perfect coming off the bench in this system. Antic stretches the floor from the 5 spot.
They were 100% going to win 50 games with horford last year. If you honestly can't accept that, then quit wasting your time talking about the hawks because you know nothing about them.
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Posted on 1/27/15 at 10:29 am to Epic Cajun
Well then maybe the players are better than we thought and were playing below their potential with their previous coach. Injuries last year prevented the team from really grasping the new system. They would have growing pains even without injuries.
So maybe they had a year in the new system, and the first 15 games was getting used to playing with the guys who were injured last year.
And now they're clicking. Maybe this is the real Hawks.
So maybe they had a year in the new system, and the first 15 games was getting used to playing with the guys who were injured last year.
And now they're clicking. Maybe this is the real Hawks.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 10:39 am to PrimeTime Money
I guess we'll all see when the playoffs come around.
I just find it hard to believe that a team without great experience in a system (second year, first year healthy) and without a legit superstar will win an NBA championship.
Maybe I'm wrong, I'm definitely willing to accept that
I just find it hard to believe that a team without great experience in a system (second year, first year healthy) and without a legit superstar will win an NBA championship.
Maybe I'm wrong, I'm definitely willing to accept that
Posted on 1/27/15 at 10:45 am to Epic Cajun
The Spurs don't really have any superstars anymore. They have some very solid players.
All-star caliber players... but no LeBron or Durant superstar-like players.
All-star caliber players... but no LeBron or Durant superstar-like players.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 10:54 am to PrimeTime Money
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I'm confused by the Hawks. They started the season 8-7 and looked like the Hawks of last year.
Then they go on a 28-1 tear.
What changed?
the biggest difference from the beginning of the year to now is an increased attn to detail and more consistent effort on D.
the only real roster additions were Thabo and Bazemore, and they were still somewhat feeling their way early on. last yr's team had no defensive depth on the wings, they've provided it.
and you could almost count Horford as an addition since he was hurt most of last year. he was definitely still getting the rust off early. he's a much better defensive center than anyone else on the roster. what he may lack in height he makes up for in mobility.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 11:01 am to PrimeTime Money
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The Spurs don't really have any superstars anymore. They have some very solid players.
All-star caliber players... but no LeBron or Durant superstar-like players.
You're right, but they have been in the same system for many years and can run it in their sleep. That's why I said the Hawks lack experience and a superstar. You have you have either one of those to win a championship, imo.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 12:54 pm to Epic Cajun
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You have you have either one of those to win a championship, imo.
I think experience is extremely overrated... but since you think it is one of the two things you NEED to win.... we have a LOT of playoff experience on our roster.... More than most playoff teams this year, but obviously not more than the Spurs
but actually, Why do you need a star/experience to win the Title?
Why isn't it better to just be a superior basketball team?
Bottom line is... Jeff Teague, Al Horford, all those guys don't give a shite about historical trends or "superstar status", or experience. They just go out there and out-execute their opponents night after night after night after night and never ever lose.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:10 pm to broeho
Because the intensity of the NBA really picks up in the playoffs. Everyone plays defense. It's why LeBron's old Cavs teams looked amazing in the regular season and got run over by Orlando and Boston in the playoffs. Championship teams have to have someone who can take over a pressure packed, must win road game in the playoffs. We don't know if Atlanta has one of those.
Indiana played better team basketball than anyone else in the East in the last two seasons, but they didn't have the guy who could take over and say "frick this, we are NOT losing to Miami".
In 2007, The Cavs went into Detroit in a 2-2 series. Detroit was the better team by two miles, and they had guys who could make huge shots (Billups, Hamilton) but they didn't have anyone who could take over the game when things got tough. Meanwhile, Cleveland had some decent players...and LeBron. LeBron went out that day, said "frick this, we are NOT losing to Detroit", and played the single best game of his career. Detroit had previously been Cleveland's house of horrors, but the best player on the floor put them on his back and carried them to a double overtime win. Cavs went on to upset Detroit in six games.
Indiana played better team basketball than anyone else in the East in the last two seasons, but they didn't have the guy who could take over and say "frick this, we are NOT losing to Miami".
In 2007, The Cavs went into Detroit in a 2-2 series. Detroit was the better team by two miles, and they had guys who could make huge shots (Billups, Hamilton) but they didn't have anyone who could take over the game when things got tough. Meanwhile, Cleveland had some decent players...and LeBron. LeBron went out that day, said "frick this, we are NOT losing to Detroit", and played the single best game of his career. Detroit had previously been Cleveland's house of horrors, but the best player on the floor put them on his back and carried them to a double overtime win. Cavs went on to upset Detroit in six games.
This post was edited on 1/27/15 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:33 pm to broeho
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I think experience is extremely overrated... but since you think it is one of the two things you NEED to win.... we have a LOT of playoff experience on our roster.... More than most playoff teams this year, but obviously not more than the Spurs
but actually, Why do you need a star/experience to win the Title?
Because things don't go perfectly in the playoffs.
In the regular season there isn't a great deal of gameplanning that goes into games on a nightly basis. In the playoffs, you have one opponent for at least 4 games, that will specifically take you out of what you do best.
Star players have the talent to shoulder the load when things aren't going right. Experience means that hey, I've been in this situation before, I remember what we did last time and this is what we can do to counteract that. Experience breeds confidence. Every team has some confidence but the teams with more experience have more confidence.
I know you'll say that the Hawks will have a great gameplan, but like Tyson said once, everyone has a plan until they get hit. Teams on the rise always have to take their lumps before they win a championship.
This post was edited on 1/27/15 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:43 pm to PrimeTime Money
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The Spurs don't really have any superstars anymore. They have some very solid players.
All-star caliber players... but no LeBron or Durant superstar-like players.
Tim Duncan was All NBA two years ago.
ETA: Had Parker not hurt his calf two years in a row you're looking at a guy in the MVP consideration.
If Leonard's hand was 100%, he'd made the All-Star team this year.
This post was edited on 1/27/15 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:45 pm to broeho
quote:
Why do you need a star/experience to win the Title?
because these type of things...
Why isn't it better to just be a superior basketball team?
make you a superior team when it comes to a 7 game playoff series.
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Bottom line is... Jeff Teague, Al Horford, all those guys don't give a shite about historical trends or "superstar status", or experience.
why would any athlete "care" about that?
it's not about caring.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:54 pm to VADawg
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LeBron went out that day, said "frick this, we are NOT losing to Detroit"
why didnt they win the title then? lebron went out those games, and said "frick this, we ARE losing to San Antonio"
This post was edited on 1/27/15 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 1/27/15 at 1:58 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
Because San Antonio had three future hall of famers at their primes who could take over a game. Cleveland had one, and he wasn't in his prime yet.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 2:00 pm to TheWalrus
Cavaliers at #2 is pretty funny iMO. Everything else looks okay.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 2:04 pm to VADawg
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You and everyone else who are putting the Cavs 6 or lower must have been asleep for the last week and a half or so. This team has been absolutely rolling since the win over the Lakers.
The Detroit Pistons also had a 6 game win streak, and the Lakers are beyond horrible. I never bought into the Cavs hype. They're easily a lottery team minus LeBron.
Posted on 3/29/15 at 12:06 am to TheWalrus
Looking back at this, I wouldn't change much and think the past two months have shown I was pretty close although I got hate at the time. I'd bump the Spurs ahead of Atlanta and drop the Mavs and that's about it.
Posted on 3/29/15 at 2:07 am to TheWalrus
1./2. Warriors/Cavs
- Order doesn't matter but I'm almost certain this will be the Finals matchup
3. Spurs
- They're coming into form just in time. They should give the Warriors a run for their money.
4. Clippers
- A long shot at contending.
No one else is really worth mentioning.
- Order doesn't matter but I'm almost certain this will be the Finals matchup
3. Spurs
- They're coming into form just in time. They should give the Warriors a run for their money.
4. Clippers
- A long shot at contending.
No one else is really worth mentioning.
Posted on 3/29/15 at 3:16 am to JordonfortheJ
quote:The Cavs are 14-2 vs. the West their last 16. I'd love to hear your argument as to why the notion of them winning the title is so laughable.
Lol
This post was edited on 3/29/15 at 3:29 am
Posted on 3/29/15 at 10:07 am to imraged
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No one else is really worth mentioning.
Posted on 3/29/15 at 10:09 am to dawgfan24348
Now that the regular season is pretty much over
1. Warriors
2. Hawks
3. Cavs
4. Grizzlies
5. Spurs
Don't really see anyone else getting to the finals
1. Warriors
2. Hawks
3. Cavs
4. Grizzlies
5. Spurs
Don't really see anyone else getting to the finals
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