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Posted on 5/1/13 at 10:52 am to
Posted by Sophandros
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 10:52 am to
Stats don't lie.

People, however, do.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110489 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 10:56 am to
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I think you are trying to put words in my mouth. I was specifically referring to Super Bowls
Well, Super Bowl wins is a team stat so I wouldn't even consider it really a "stat" for individuals.

quote:

So you want to look up Aikmen's playoff record and Hebert's and get back to me?
Again, team stats.

You're basically proving my point by saying Aikman is better because he had better teammates.

To go a step further, Aikman had a better running back, better Oline, better WR, and he STILL put up numbers that weren't all that much better than Hbert. Why?
This post was edited on 5/1/13 at 10:57 am
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 10:57 am to
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Still don't believe you.


Basketball and tennis are the sports that require the most even mix of athleticism and hand-eye coordination. With the exception of height, the things that make you good at basketball make you good at tennis and vice versa. The footwork used in the two sports is very similar, which makes sense because the playing surfaces are roughly he same size.


Basketball requires more raw athleticism than tennis.

Tennis requires more hand-eye than basketball.

I'll say:
Basketball: 60% athleticism, 40% hand-eye
Tennis: 60% hand-eye, 40% athleticism.

This is why tennis and basketball are awesome sports.
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
34432 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 10:58 am to
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To go a step further, Aikman had a better running back, better Oline, better WR, and he STILL put up numbers that weren't all that much better than Hbert. Why?
That isn't going further, that is repeating your same point you are trying to make. And I'm not trying to compare Aikman's and Hebert's passing stats. It has nothing to do with winning Super Bowls.
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 10:58 am to
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Stats don't lie.

People, however, do.



In the absence of proper context, stats will lie more than your whore ex-girlfriend.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110489 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 10:59 am to
The difference is, every tennis player has to have great hand-eye coordination.

Not every basketball player is dribbling between the legs and doing all of the normal required stuff. Shaq didn't need great coordination, he could have still been a good player without it.

Joel Anthony has zero coordination whatsoever, he's an NBA player. That can't happen in tennis.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110489 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 11:00 am to
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That isn't going further, that is repeating your same point you are trying to make
Well that'll happen when you don't address it the first time lol.

Still wondering about it now, in fact since you didn't answer it.

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And I'm not trying to compare Aikman's and Hebert's passing stats
Why not, stats don't lie.
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 11:01 am to
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Not every basketball player is dribbling between the legs and doing all of the normal required stuff. Shaq didn't need great coordination, he could have still been a good player without it.

Joel Anthony has zero coordination whatsoever, he's an NBA player. That can't happen in tennis.



We're on the same page. I was going to add in another paragraph that limited my post to guards and/or perimeter players, but then I just didn't.

So, word up.
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
34432 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 11:05 am to
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Nicholls St. Fan
Starting to make sense. Is that you Bobby?


You deserve that for the holdout.


And that's for the Falcons playoff loss.
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 11:06 am to
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In the absence of proper context, stats will lie more than your whore ex-girlfriend.


Two things:

1) I'm so using this in the future
2) context is provided by people, and omitting context is a lie of omission. But we're splitting hairs at this point
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 11:07 am to
Bobby had a winning record with the Saints. He went to the Falcons and proceeded to have a losing record.

good man.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110489 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 11:07 am to


It's actually more of an indictment of Aikman and much less of me propping up Hebert. Hell I only used him because he had already been brought up.
Posted by UFMatt
Gator Nation - Everywhere
Member since Oct 2010
11418 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 2:26 pm to
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50% of the UF fans in FL drive trucks from before 1985 and half of those 50% can't read.


And UF Graduates own 50% of the Burger Kings that FSUcks Graduates work at.
This post was edited on 5/1/13 at 2:28 pm
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47436 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 2:34 pm to
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If Jackson or Tippett played in New York City, they would have revolutionized the position.


how many careers did they end on Monday Night Football?
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83922 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 2:54 pm to
Chipper Jones is the most overrated player of this generation.
Posted by F machine
Member since Jun 2009
11886 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 3:51 pm to
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Great is not throwing a red zone INT in a playoff game.


I'd be willing to bet a bunch of great qb's have done this.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
31876 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 4:01 pm to
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bobbyray21

You seem to know a lot about tennis. Aren't the Tennis serve and the baseball pitching motion very similar?
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 5/2/13 at 7:57 pm to
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You seem to know a lot about tennis. Aren't the Tennis serve and the baseball pitching motion very similar?


They're similar in that it's all about getting as much shoulder rotation as possible, and I think it's fair to say that a great pitcher could probably serve really well if he tried and that a great server could throw a heckuva fastball.

They're different in that the serving motion is less dynamic than the pitching motion. You've gotta stay behind a line so you can't stride.







Pete Sampras had the best serve in the history of the game and you can see the kind of shoulder action he uses in his motion.

Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 5/2/13 at 8:06 pm to
It was once unpopular to think Jordan Jefferson wasn't a QB, others have come around to that thinking though
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 5/2/13 at 8:12 pm to
Had she not gotten stabbed, Monica Seles would have won more majors than Steffi Graf.

No tennis player in history had more talent than Marat Safin.

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